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Well how come it looks identical to a Legacy then? How is it different?

Maybe it's a sig Legacy? Rather than a whole new design.

I mostly only do ledge and rail combos. I also ride pyramid boxes a fair bit and a little bit of half pipe riding/airs. Don't really do manny stuff or flippy, whippy tricks and yeah I ride a 21.6" Sledge so my scoot is pretty big. Yeah, gussets snapped off completely. It does affect your bars...

In my opinion, Suicides and bars that are on the heavier side with 3 degrees are the best performing bars for my style of riding. Backsweep is mostly preference but i think its better and makes a positive difference. If you want smaller, lighter T bars though you could try Proto ReTros. Putting...

I had Addict bars as well and I liked them also, they cracked so quick though haha I prefer the feel of non butted bars over butted bars though.

Depends on your style of riding, backsweep is definitely better for airs and I prefer it for barspins but if you ride wider bars with sweep you tend to hit your legs with the bars. I think 3 degrees backsweep is the perfect amount, 5 is a little too much for me. Heavier bars are better for...

I rode a Pandemonium for the first time the other day as well, was pleasantly surprised that it didn't feel flimsy and shitty like Addicts do. Just felt like a lighter, bigger Lindworm and I got 360 whips flat first try, which is something I hardly ever land on my Sledge. The only bad things I...

They don't grind as nice as a TSI, aren't as strong, aren't fully boxed and don't feel solid plus they have shitty brakes. They aren't bad decks, I just reckon TSI are better.

When Ethics become as good as a TSI then maybe they can make that claim lol.

Doesn't matter if it's patented or anything like that, it's still their design lol they thought of it and produced it first, others that used that design just copied it from them. I don't care that Raptor copied the design though, I'd dislike the look of those bars either way but it's just...

Bust up cunt I was just putting my 2 cents in about the bars, what's the point of the forum if you can't discuss something about scooters fuck wit? Nah, but it's like saying that MGP didn't copy RAD with their bar design on their Nitro completes when they obviously did. It's different for T...

Those Rogue wheels sound legit, not really digging the core design but if they turn out to be grippy, fast, durable wheels I'd cop.

Lol, they're Envy, what did you expect?

One look at them and you can instantly tell what they used as the base design for those bars. They're trying to cash in on the popularity of Bols to make money it's as simple as that. They may not be 100 percent identical but theyre close enough to be considered a rip off. It's not like I like...

Lol, theyre identical apart from the split in the down tube.

Idk whoever said that the bars had been made out of the wrong material haha the Kevin sigs were the only ones that they apparently used the wrong type of steel for, the Downside Up bars and Strewth bars have always used that 2.3 mm thick 4130 chromo plus they were never taken off the market...

Bars are rank af, knock off of Bols which are already ugly

Yeah I know, I'm just saying the bars he was talking about were the Kevin sigs haha

Bars ruin it

You do realize he's talking about the Kevin Austin sigs right? they're already 27 high with no slit by 23, don't think they need to be any bigger as hardly anyone rides over 29 high lol