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Bennett_J

Steel Member
The die for the extrusion costs thousands of dollars alone... $1000 is completely believable.

How many small businesses have you worked for? I want to see any of the managers from them tell me that you know the slightest bit about manufacturing...

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In any industry $1000 for a prototype of a $200 item is literally never going to happen, nor does a DYE cost thousands of dollars, working in a manufacturing plant for large companies I have realized that they can tell you what they want about the prices but in reality the retail is usually 3x-6x higher than the cost per item (from manufacturer), and prototypes are never more than just over double the cost of the item.

Where do I know this from you ask? Tee shirts, Shoes, Pants, Fishing supplies, Bikes, and Car parts.


Trust me, who ever said that is either gullible as hell or just plain out a chronic lier who demands attention 24/7
 

Dom Marconi

Silver Member
if it cost $1000 to make a deck they are testing...once they mass produce them they would need to sell the deck at like $1200 to make money. I highly doubt it.

That didn't make any sense. First of all, I said a die costs thousands of dollars to make. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

How many small businesses have you worked for? I want to see any of the managers from them tell me that you know the slightest bit about manufacturing...

mega_facepalm.jpg



In any industry $1000 for a prototype of a $200 item is literally never going to happen, nor does a DYE cost thousands of dollars, working in a manufacturing plant for large companies I have realized that they can tell you what they want about the prices but in reality the retail is usually 3x-6x higher than the cost per item (from manufacturer), and prototypes are never more than just over double the cost of the item.

Where do I know this from you ask? Tee shirts, Shoes, Pants, Fishing supplies, Bikes, and Car parts.


Trust me, who ever said that is either gullible as hell or just plain out a chronic lier who demands attention 24/7
And you, I don't see what you are trying to get across. A die DOES cost thousands. Any sort of injection mold costs thousands as well. It's a fact. How many manufacturing companies have you worked for?
 

Bennett_J

Steel Member
That didn't make any sense. First of all, I said a die costs thousands of dollars to make. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.


And you, I don't see what you are trying to get across. A die DOES cost thousands. Any sort of injection mold costs thousands as well. It's a fact. How many manufacturing companies have you worked for?

4 as of yesterday, soon to be 5.


If you are putting the cost of the mold as the price of the deck for prototyping then my god... You just are horrid at explaining costs, the actual deck costs x dollars, the mold/injection/whatever the fuck costs $1000 or something, that is called an OVERHEAD cost, an expenditure that covers the entirety of production. Its not the cost of a deck.

And for the love of god, ''Die'' is when a person or thing stops living, "Dye" is color, spell it right. And they are not using a DYE on the decks, they are powdercoating as do most companies these days
 

Dom Marconi

Silver Member
4 as of yesterday, soon to be 5.


If you are putting the cost of the mold as the price of the deck for prototyping then my god... You just are horrid at explaining costs, the actual deck costs x dollars, the mold/injection/whatever the fuck costs $1000 or something, that is called an OVERHEAD cost, an expenditure that covers the entirety of production. Its not the cost of a deck.

And for the love of god, ''Die'' is when a person or thing stops living, "Dye" is color, spell it right. And they are not using a DYE on the decks, they are powdercoating as do most companies these days
Jesus Christ dude. First of all, it's called a "die". It's not only when someone ceases to live, but the tooling needed to make any sort of extrusion. Seeing as it's only a PROTOTYPE, the die is not an overhead cost. It's going to cover the production of lets say just a couple decks. Any sort of extrusion for a scooter deck has internal cavities, so it's going to be a very expensive die. They want to make 3 prototype decks, then they are going to have to pay around 2 grand for the tooling costs. $2000 divided by 3 = $666.67. Of course they are going to have to pay that when they start to make real production runs, but it's going to be a very minimal expense when they are making that many. Bottom line, it's not an overhead expense if they are only making a few prototypes. When you are prototyping an extrusion, it's going to be very expensive. Chill out with the attitude Mr. Box Stacker.
 

Carson .

Steel Member
No, okay listen. Extrusion mold and shit like that cost SOOOO much money. it could EASILY be $1,000. The other day i went to a milling/cnc'ing place. To make BARENDS with a 1 inch extention for ONE it would be $400 for the pair. There as if i make 50 they're only $25 for a pair. Fuck China is all i have to say.
 

Bennett_J

Steel Member
Lets either drop this whole thing, and say who gives a ----- or taek it to PM's.
Back to eye candy.

Yeah I'm done with him, he gets his knowledge from the internet not making products in the factories, its not worth my time.

But I will own up that I was wrong on some fronts ("Die" confusion), but was right on many
 

Jon.

Steel Member
I worked in a machine shop the whole summer and it doesn't cost 400 dollars for a pair of barends. Although a barend is multiple pieces machining it does not cost more than 5 dollars. The only reason it might be expensive is due to the fact someone has to design the pro e to manufacture the part. If only one is made that is a waste but the guy still gets payed.
What the distributor chooses to set the price at is a whole other story. CNC machines are a lot more simple than most of you think. Although the machines on my floor were all producing small objects never larger than 6 inches.
 
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