Next american revolution?

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Hep Greg

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i went down to the protest here in NYC yesterday, going back today. i plan on staying there for a few days, we need this change.
 

Evan.

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A) The kid that said it's Obama's fault-

Wrong. Bush raised the debt ceiling over 7 times, the republicans are using that trying to get Obama out next election. My brother is in the Dept. of Governement Auditors, and essentially the republicans are acting like a group of little kids that got their toys taken away. When Social Security was pitched, Republicans all were saying the same thing "We don't want that commie bullshit" but now that it's almost gone just about everyone in Washington including the Republicans are all saying "Don't touch that we need that!"

B) Democratic Socialism works, and it's not much different then what we got. The Netherlands are democratic socialist, I went there over the summer and seriously they're so much better off in quality of living then us. We're already a capitalist country with socialist tendencies, what do you think things like welfare, social security, are? We're basically setting ourselves up to be a socialist nation.

If you ask me it's about damn time.
 

btyczki21

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Democracy will never work to who ever said we should "go back" to it.

First of all America never has been or will be a democracy. how could you even begin to argue that 51% of the nation leading the other 49% is a good idea? Doesn't everybody know how stupid the average person is.
 

devinthedew2

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i went down to the protest here in NYC yesterday, going back today. i plan on staying there for a few days, we need this change.
Thats great man, keep it uP!

And if i could i would move to Sweden that place seems alot more chill as a whole then anywhere else in the world. And everything is not polluted you can drink water straight from creeks without the risk of getting sick.
 

Ryno496

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uhm... no there is always bacteria in naturally occuring unpurified water. and all of you guys in this thread are stupid. i dont know why you see the need to completely reform government. we put a string of good presidents into power and stop having the democrats give away money that we dont have, and we will be back into a typical state of being within 100 years. all this reformation shit is retarded. you want to put innocent people at dange and temporarily wreck society to do the same thing that could happen otherwise

edit: and on the subject of the poor and the rich, maybe if people actually understood the idea of working hard and not spending money on completely unncecssary stuff then that gap could actually be broken. you guys piss me off
 

J dub

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yea because obviously capitalism is working well...

a democratic socialist government done the right way is better than the shit we have now. capitalism IS the reason for 43% of the money being strait horded by 1% of the population. thats obviously a good thing to you isnt it?

We tried socialism once. Around 1620 at Plymouth rock. Check out how that went. It's a flawed design that will never be able to support itself, for why would someone put out 100% effort when he doesn't have to? The few with a work effort would be supporting the majority with little work effort, yet they all receive equal shares.

100% capitalism = warlords

100% democracy = idiots voting and ruining the country

However... a Republic with a little democracy and capitalism mixed in for flavor, would encourage a work ethic yet not throw us back into medieval times of massive seperation.
 

devinthedew2

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uhm... no there is always bacteria in naturally occuring unpurified water. and all of you guys in this thread are stupid. i dont know why you see the need to completely reform government. we put a string of good presidents into power and stop having the democrats give away money that we dont have, and we will be back into a typical state of being within 100 years. all this reformation shit is retarded. you want to put innocent people at dange and temporarily wreck society to do the same thing that could happen otherwise

edit: and on the subject of the poor and the rich, maybe if people actually understood the idea of working hard and not spending money on completely unncecssary stuff then that gap could actually be broken. you guys piss me off
The water in sweden is alot cleaner and you can drink it without getting sick. Of course it has bacteria in it lmao. The water from the lakes is actually clean almost drinking quality it says. So if you drank it you most likely wouldn't get sick. And thats alot better then ours which is covered in fertilizer and has algae growing everywhere. Thats why we have the biggest dead zone in the world where no life can live under water during the summer months.
http://www.visitsweden.com/sweden/Sweden-Facts/How-you-do-things-in-Sweden/Drinking-water/

And you piss me off you think the government is fucked up because of democrats, two words George bush. lmao you think your so much smarter then everyone else when you expect everyone to make millions. fuck off you dumb cunt
 

parrish

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this is my fucking jam dude
mike ruppert, smartest man alive, from the wilderness, collapse, you know what it be
oldavai theory is pretty hesh too
 

Riley Hughes

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B) Democratic Socialism works, and it's not much different then what we got. The Netherlands are democratic socialist, I went there over the summer and seriously they're so much better off in quality of living then us. We're already a capitalist country with socialist tendencies, what do you think things like welfare, social security, are? We're basically setting ourselves up to be a socialist nation.

i do NOT want to pay all the taxes that they have to pay though. i heard it was like 50% taxation? that's rediculous, here it's only like 30% or less depending on how much money you make
 

humpurple kushiones

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You're ridiculously immature and therefore anyone who is remotely intellectual won't take you seriously.
Girls hold grudges, guys hold it for an hour and move the fuck on.

whos holding a grudge? adam rouse is just a new synonym for psychotic behavior. anyone who is remotely intellectual wont take anyone who acts or defends behavior like adam rouses seriously.

We tried socialism once. Around 1620 at Plymouth rock. Check out how that went. It's a flawed design that will never be able to support itself, for why would someone put out 100% effort when he doesn't have to?

we havent even considered talking about how a socialism in MODERN TIMES would work, how can you say its a flawed design without even knowing the design? there would obviously be a system to this, not just take what you want until everything's gone, HOW it would work is a different issue, but it WOULD work if we do it right. give me a few days ill try to figure out a possible working socialist system that could happen in america. its not an easy concept to grasp and figure out but its possible.
 

humpurple kushiones

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if you want to live in a socialist country, why not move to one? there are plenty.

because im 17, and dont have the time or the money to do it? and im already going to college? and i pretty much have shit set up for me here already? and i dunno.. i have family here? just because i don't like this shitty game of capitalism doesnt mean im not playing it or that i can opt out of it.. that was a dumb question.
 

Riley Hughes

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not specifically to you, i'm talking about all the people in this country who share some of the same political ideas that you do. i don't get why they want our country to be like every other country.
 

humpurple kushiones

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not specifically to you, i'm talking about all the people in this country who share some of the same political ideas that you do. i don't get why they want our country to be like every other country.

1) every other country isnt socialist
2) capitalism is NOT working
3) we want to make this country BETTER, capitalism is obviously making it worse. if you want it to stay like this, then you're part of the problem.
4) individuality is not always a good thing
 

Riley Hughes

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obviously i didn't mean every other country in the world is socialist. i don't want to have to pay as much in taxes as most socialist countries have to pay. i just think we should stop wasting money on things we don't need, get rid of corruption somehow, and start slowly bringing down the national debt and paying it off, we don't need a whole restructure of the government. i don't think you realize how many people actually love this country and would fight to do exactly the opposite of what you want to do.

again, if i was you i'd just live your little life until you're old enough to move somewhere else that taxes you up the ass, but hands everything to you on a platter and makes your standard of living decent without you having to work for it.
 
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