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Tylerr.

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Conor Davidson said:
Inwards...because Proto is taking too long to release forks.

When will kids realize that Inward's products are garbage. Granted, Razor is worse and that's the only reason people buy them. Proto has been taking a LONG time to release their forks so the demand for aftermarket forks is ski rocketing. That's the only reason Inward is blowing up. They have thick forktubes, and that's the only thing going for them. To anybody that's owned an SR fork, Inward's craftsmenship is god awful. The welds look like hot glue and the legs are never straight. HOWEVER, razor is so far worse, it is indescribable. So anything better than razor is obviously a step up and people will buy them, since nobody else is in the fork game right now. I give major props to Inward, because they stepped up to the plate and supplied a demand. However, there are other bar companies, so Inward's bars...I surely wouldn't get 'em.
Um i bet you couldnt even break an inward fork.
and SR forks are an overload of materials.
they are GREAT forks though. but i still saw a totally biaset (sp?) standpoint to proto. and just by the way the legs are perfectly straight on my inward fork.
so dont say a company is garbage until you have ridden it and BROKEN it.
and yes inward bars are not gonna be good. thats obvis
 

humpurple kushiones

Steel Member
Tyler Wheeland. said:
Conor Davidson said:
Inwards...because Proto is taking too long to release forks.

When will kids realize that Inward's products are garbage. Granted, Razor is worse and that's the only reason people buy them. Proto has been taking a LONG time to release their forks so the demand for aftermarket forks is ski rocketing. That's the only reason Inward is blowing up. They have thick forktubes, and that's the only thing going for them. To anybody that's owned an SR fork, Inward's craftsmenship is god awful. The welds look like hot glue and the legs are never straight. HOWEVER, razor is so far worse, it is indescribable. So anything better than razor is obviously a step up and people will buy them, since nobody else is in the fork game right now. I give major props to Inward, because they stepped up to the plate and supplied a demand. However, there are other bar companies, so Inward's bars...I surely wouldn't get 'em.
Um i bet you couldnt even break an inward fork.
and SR forks are an overload of materials.
they are GREAT forks though. but i still saw a totally biaset (sp?) standpoint to proto. and just by the way the legs are perfectly straight on my inward fork.
so dont say a company is garbage until you have ridden it and BROKEN it.
and yes inward bars are not gonna be good. thats obvis
agree with tyler. i havent even been able to imagine how inward forks can break staring at them for hours. ive looked at countless broken forks and looked at inwards they basically have like very little stress points. murphy needs to test them to see were they break because im not saying there indestructible i just cant imagine were they can possibly break
 

Steven_T

Member
Conor..try to not talk shiit on someone elses products until you rode them yourself. I dont think ive seen one person on here, who broke an Inward Fork.
 
Tyler Wheeland. said:
Um i bet you couldnt even break an inward fork.
and SR forks are an overload of materials.
they are GREAT forks though. but i still saw a totally biaset (sp?) standpoint to proto. and just by the way the legs are perfectly straight on my inward fork.
so dont say a company is garbage until you have ridden it and BROKEN it.
and yes inward bars are not gonna be good. thats obvis
My inward legs are not straight. Each one is bent outward. They are two close together and don't fit a lot of my wheels (which is odd considering that both are bent outward). They are mig welded which should not be acceptable for a $90 part. Overload on parts? They are still cheaper, lighter, and stronger than inwards, so how does the amount of welded pieces have to do with it? I don't disagree that they are great forks, but it's only when they are compared to stock razor forks. When you compare them to protos they look like garbage in the craftsmanship department.
 

coryM

Member
Conor Davidson said:
Back then you guys sold only 15" right? 0.035" would hold fine for that width. It's just when you start hitting 17" and up that you need a thicker wall'd crosstube.

I'd say .035 is ok for up to 14 wide but itd be better to use at LEAST .049 no matter how narrow the bars are. We use .065 now since most people are running 18+ wide.

Also I'd like to see the snapped v3s? I could see them bending but snapping???
V1s were prone to snapping just cause of the .035 crossbar. Although they would only snap after they were ridden for awhile and they began to get stressed.

We have a couple new designs that will be ALOT stronger but imo the basic 2 peice design is plenty strong unless the bars are 18 or 20+ inches wide.
 

Steven_T

Member
Conor Davidson said:
Tyler Wheeland. said:
Um i bet you couldnt even break an inward fork.
and SR forks are an overload of materials.
they are GREAT forks though. but i still saw a totally biaset (sp?) standpoint to proto. and just by the way the legs are perfectly straight on my inward fork.
so dont say a company is garbage until you have ridden it and BROKEN it.
and yes inward bars are not gonna be good. thats obvis
My inward legs are not straight. Each one is bent outward. They are two close together and don't fit a lot of my wheels (which is odd considering that both are bent outward). They are mig welded which should not be acceptable for a $90 part. Overload on parts? They are still cheaper, lighter, and stronger than inwards, so how does the amount of welded pieces have to do with it? I don't disagree that they are great forks, but it's only when they are compared to stock razor forks. When you compare them to protos they look like garbage in the craftsmanship department.


I had to file my fork down a little bit to. To fit my Protos. But Filing somthing down a little bit. And having it snap..are two different things. Ive yet to see someone snap or bend an Inward Fork while riding.


lol..and why are we arguing about Forks..when this threads about Bars..lol
 

humpurple kushiones

Steel Member
coryM said:
Conor Davidson said:
Back then you guys sold only 15" right? 0.035" would hold fine for that width. It's just when you start hitting 17" and up that you need a thicker wall'd crosstube.

I'd say .035 is ok for up to 14 wide but itd be better to use at LEAST .049 no matter how narrow the bars are. We use .065 now since most people are running 18+ wide.

Also I'd like to see the snapped v3s? I could see them bending but snapping???
V1s were prone to snapping just cause of the .035 crossbar. Although they would only snap after they were ridden for awhile and they began to get stressed.

We have a couple new designs that will be ALOT stronger but imo the basic 2 peice design is plenty strong unless the bars are 18 or 20+ inches wide.




liltony said:
Cooper Klaar said:
bump
barsbroke.jpg

yes thats broken :(
 

Tylerr.

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Conor Davidson said:
Tyler Wheeland. said:
Um i bet you couldnt even break an inward fork.
and SR forks are an overload of materials.
they are GREAT forks though. but i still saw a totally biaset (sp?) standpoint to proto. and just by the way the legs are perfectly straight on my inward fork.
so dont say a company is garbage until you have ridden it and BROKEN it.
and yes inward bars are not gonna be good. thats obvis
My inward legs are not straight. Each one is bent outward. They are two close together and don't fit a lot of my wheels (which is odd considering that both are bent outward). They are mig welded which should not be acceptable for a $90 part. Overload on parts? They are still cheaper, lighter, and stronger than inwards, so how does the amount of welded pieces have to do with it? I don't disagree that they are great forks, but it's only when they are compared to stock razor forks. When you compare them to protos they look like garbage in the craftsmanship department.
i ment SR forks being still great
i want pics of your "bent" inward fork.
and my fork was 60 dollars
so idk wtf your talking about 90 bucks?
 
Mine was $91.50.

All I'm saying is that if I got a product of similar quality for my bike or anything else: Huge welds, slightly bent, needed to be filed, etc... I'd be really pissed and would do something about it. Just because it's for a scooter doesn't mean that there is room for errors. If this sport wants to seem legit, people need to start making legit products, not ones that were thrown together and sold quick and that's the vibe I get from Inward.

But yea, I'm gonna stop arguing. I'm killing this thread.
 

team_punishment

dargersaurus rex
Conor Davidson said:
Mine was $91.50.

All I'm saying is that if I got a product of similar quality for my bike or anything else: Huge welds, slightly bent, needed to be filed, etc... I'd be really pissed and would do something about it. Just because it's for a scooter doesn't mean that there is room for errors. If this sport wants to seem legit, people need to start making legit products, not ones that were thrown together and sold quick and that's the vibe I get from Inward.

But yea, I'm gonna stop arguing. I'm killing this thread.
just a quick question. if you have sr forks, and you hate inward forks so much, then why did you buy one?
 

Steven_T

Member
You obviously ordered early..before JP started making them a lot cleaner.Mind you he had no plans that tons of people would start buying his products. He made them for locals, that didnt get all bent out of shape over some sloppy welds. Which looking at my current fork..i def. dont see. As for him throwing together prodcuts..no. But "sold quick" yea..most people dont wait very long at all once he takes your order.

As for the Bars, I will be ride mine when they come, and see what the big deal is about them.
 
Nick, I got them for unspeakable reasons...haha for real.

Steven, I got the ones with the grinded down welds, but every place that he didn't grind down...bubble status.

But think about it...You buy a new bmx fork and it comes in. You first notice that the fork legs are slightly crooked, not too bad, but noticeable. Then you notice that the welds underneath the fork are huge and bubbly. It's still not a huge deal. THEN, you try to put your front wheel on and the fork legs are too close together and it won't fit. So you have to take your file out and shave off some of the metal.

Tell me you wouldn't be pissed off?

Peoples standards are shot because it's scootering, but the higher the standards are the higher quality the parts will become.
 

Steven_T

Member
K, now you think about it.

Like i said, he did not suddenly have this dream to make the Scooter world some parts! And that they will be perfect. Everyone who makes anything goes through trial and error..some products come out amazing some obviously didnt. Look at Andrew and some of these Protos that are messing up. Its just the way it works. To compare them to a Bmx fork..doesnt really work out. There are major companies whose profession is to put those together for you. JPs profession is NOT making Forks for people to ride. It is something he does, and is getting better and better at. But to toss out remarks like he tosses parts together, and sells em quick or whatever is ridiculous. You honestly seem to be the only one whos annoyed about your Fork.


btw Sam. sorry we just totally spammed your thread ridiculously..lol.


ONE PIECE BARS YEA!
 

Tylerr.

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TristanVesely said:
How the hell did a one piece scooter bar thread turn into a bmx fork thread? haha cmon guys lets get on subject
CONORDAVIDSONSTEEZ!!!!!!!!!!

sz one pecies FTW
 

me1

Member
I'd consider SlaYers to be one pieces. There are four pieces but on regular one pieces there are two pieces? Welding makes them all one piece in my opinion, and even if you don't think they are one pieces, a review would still make people happy. So why tell noobs to search for a separate thread on Slayers when they bump this up asking about them instead of just saying something. I would write one but I haven't ridden them and I don't generally break parts.
 

coryM

Member
I hear what conors saying. Its just right now the sport is growing. Once the sport is bigger and has a larger more consisntent demand for parts THEN you should expect parts to be alot cleaner and made with much higher quality standards. And once parts are made this way the companies who cant keep up with the quality standards will die off. Prices will drop as well... especially when theres multiple companies competing. It will all happen over time as long as the sport keeps growing.

This is part of the reason rad has only made bars up until now. Because we didnt have the facilities to make high quality forks or decks... Bars are easy though and require less tools and I dont want to sell anything that isnt built up to standard because thats not good for the reputation haha :)
Within this year Im sure lots of companies will be making parts with quality that is on par with any good bike company. Some parts are already there and some are just hack jobs like conors saying. But hey, the more those people sell the more money they will have to put into tooling and material to start producing better things. I myself have just spent the last year or so saving my money for tools jigs and other things that will make it easier for me to make high quality stuff instead of just selling garbage.
 
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