Obama will win, but i want mccain. and wtf some of you are so dumb, "mccain has an egg shaped head" stfu. you dont live here... therefore dont even post here. haha, obama sounds like he has a plan, but he doesnt have any idea how hes gonna do what he says, the truth is, mcain is more realistic about things and has 3x the experience, and im sorry mccain isnt the big martin luther king like obama is but he knows more about what hes talking about. For the people voting for him bc his speaking and how smart he sounds....GET YOUR HEAD OUT UR ASS! that doesnt mean SHIT in politics. some of you should focus on important things. my personal beleif is experience means ALOT in politics, and mccain does know what hes talking about unlike obama. Unfortunately this country has turned into a shithole full of idiots that vote obama for DUMB things. Obama i think will get assasinated, there are SO many people that would risk jail to kill that guy/hurt him. but if he wins, we'll see if anything crazy happens
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Bret Lentine
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Matt Ogle said:
your whole post is exactly what i was going to say almost word for word.
and a lot of people are too stupid to realize we still have extreme racists living here.
its gonna be like kamikaze central in 2 weeks
danielwarwick
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For some reason, this seems like a kyle post, I really hope it is also because it is weak.Matt Ogle said:
"Obama sounds like he has a plan but has no idea how he's going to do it" or whatever,
Yes he does, he has a plan for everything, he has a plan on how to execute it and how to pay for it. McCain talks so much about earmarks he forgets they only account for 18 billion dollars, which will do absolutely nothing for us when earmarks are actually beneficial to our country. Barack has the best plan and the ability to get to it done. Even just examining his character and where he's come from and what he's done while in politics, you can tell he is not a whimp who will sit around and do nothing.
"m sorry mccain isnt the big martin luther king like obama is but he knows more about what hes talking about."
Like what? What does John McCain know more about? Let's see, he has healthcare wrong, the economy wrong, the War wrong, his foreign policy is wrong, his tax policy is wrong, he is wrong on countless different things.
You republicans threw out your experience argument when Palin was put on the VP ticket, so that argument is now void. Those that have seen Obama grow up in politics and slowly build a name for himself love him because of his decisions and how much they have benefited from them. Experience is the stupidest argument in the world, and I will not give a slice of credibility to that argument.
Will he get assassinated? It really is possible, it's scary as well. But, at the same time you have John McCain who will be the oldest president ever in office. He demonstrates several warnings signs for alzheimers, and he could croak at any moment. Now, look at it this way, if Obama is assassinated, Joe Biden certainly will be able to lead and do a good job, Sarah Palin is in absolutely no way qualified to lead a country, or even a small town. Hell, she did a terrible job as mayor of Wasilla and an even worse job as governor.
This election is historic and important, those of you that can vote, ignore race, ignore what you were brought up on, and realize we can't afford 4 more years the same or even worse than the past 8. Vote Barack Obama and hope that we can finally make progress.
Danny, i think your really smart and respect you so much.
but heres what i have to say.
Both canidates i dont think have much to offer.
but Obama is a fake. He says how much faith in God he has and that hes a christian then reads the bible and misquotes it and says do we want out country ran from this book, it says to stone people and he completely contridicts(sp?) himself. Our fore fathers faught for our nation to be started and based on the bible and under God.
thats all i have to say. i know he will probally be a good president but thats just what ive seen.
im 14 so all this politic stuff is reallly dumb cause i cant vote anyway. but i dont want a Lier and a Fake to be president of our nation.
and honestly dude i dont think you could do any better than Mccain or Obama. so dont talk bad because im pretty sure you dont know all there is to know about politics. Im pretty sure its harder than you think running a nation, we dont need 14 year old kids babbling about how this is dumb or thats dumb. Id say we let people who are actually Old enough to vote and have a say decide.
that in no way was ment against you or anyone. Just my thoughts.
but heres what i have to say.
Both canidates i dont think have much to offer.
but Obama is a fake. He says how much faith in God he has and that hes a christian then reads the bible and misquotes it and says do we want out country ran from this book, it says to stone people and he completely contridicts(sp?) himself. Our fore fathers faught for our nation to be started and based on the bible and under God.
thats all i have to say. i know he will probally be a good president but thats just what ive seen.
im 14 so all this politic stuff is reallly dumb cause i cant vote anyway. but i dont want a Lier and a Fake to be president of our nation.
and honestly dude i dont think you could do any better than Mccain or Obama. so dont talk bad because im pretty sure you dont know all there is to know about politics. Im pretty sure its harder than you think running a nation, we dont need 14 year old kids babbling about how this is dumb or thats dumb. Id say we let people who are actually Old enough to vote and have a say decide.
that in no way was ment against you or anyone. Just my thoughts.
danielwarwick
Member
Thanks man, but you're wrong,Tyler Wheeland. said:
Our founding fathers did not fight to get our country founded on Christianity, that's precisely what they didn't want, they wanted religious freedom. We are not a Christian nation, we are a secular nation. If you don't believe me, read quotes from our founding fathers:
Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â?¦Ã¢â?¬Å?Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on manÃ?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â??Ã?Â. Thomas Jefferson
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." Benjamin Franklin.
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect." James Madison.
"The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?" - John Adams.
Need further proof? Let me cite the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams on June 10, 1797.
The very first line of the document is, As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
So as you can see, we are a secular nation, not a Christian nation.
And I am entitled to having an opinion and speaking my mind despite the fact that I'm 14 (15 in 3 days), so what if I can't vote? I want my career to end up in political broadcasting or journalism and hopefully go into politics, I'm going to learn all I can now and decide on what will be affecting not only my future but the future of everyone else in this country.
edit: I mean no offense to you at all, I'm really sorry if I seem mean.
CodyChirichiello
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really though guys, 100% of mccains ads are negative.
danielwarwick
Member
thanks a lot bro.Tyler Wheeland. said:
and i really don't see how it'll be an antichristian nation but i respect your opinion.
McCain has WAY more experience and is more realistic, he wants more standards for this country, and knows that a socialists country BARELY ever works out. Im not gonna get in a stupid online arguement with you but thats why im voting for him. Mainly bc of the standards part. Obama believes you should be able to do WHATEVER you want, no matter how cruel, how stupid it is or whatever. and i dont think thats right. this country should have godly standards. How can this country be a 1 nation under god country with a president that believes in outside the wound abortion, in my opinion that is straight up evil. just like abortion in general. thats just how i feel about it. Oh and btw daniel that wasnt matt it was me. haha good guess man. lol Oh and for the people who think hes gonna die. That is so fucking dumb. YES hes old. but hes in GREAT shape. and hes rich as hell. which means he can get the best surgery you can get if he gets ill. but i doubt it will happen. And to people who say "we cant have the misery weve been through with bush again". SHUT UP! John Mccain is a COMPLETELY different person, yes, hes a republican, that doesnt at all mean hes the next bush. damn thats annoying, and stupid to say. Vote for what you think is right for the country, and also what is morally right.
danielwarwick
Member
i'm not arguing with that because well, i don't know where to start, sean or someone else feel free to refute this but i just don't have the time for it right now.Matt Ogle said:
Nate Grant
Steel Member
to late barspin
classic SR reference if anyone can catch it
classic SR reference if anyone can catch it
Yeah that was all kyle.
My views- Obama's tax plan, if executed correctly, kills the rich, and helps the poor(a little bit). McCains plan helps everybody, of course not the poor as much as Obama's plan would do. I dont care about social security/medicare at this point in my life haha. McCain be against universal healthcare..which i am more against than for..but i really wouldnt care. Iraq- McCain wants to pull out when we are done with the democracy deal. Understandable, since Bush already went in and screwed things up, staying in and finishing the job so there was some purpose isnt a terrible thing in my opinion. Pulling out quickly would be ideal and i dont think McCain minds if we are in there for centuries. Oh well, I haVe yet to go to Iraq..maybe democracy would be a good thing. It was forced, not a good thing. but what can Jonathon McCainathon do at this point? pull out? ok thats fine. Just leaves Iraq how they were, excepted now they have reason to want to kill us all. I have NO idea what will actually happen, whether we pull out NOW or stay in, so im not going to make a judgement. For the sake of our soldiers though..pulling out is ideal.
Dan:
Christianity...(HAS BECOME) the most perverted system that ever shone on
man. -T.J.
The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of ChristianityÃ?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â??Ã?¦ I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God- John Adams
God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel-Benjamin Franklin, Constitutional Convention of 1787.
etcetc. anybody can find quotes proving/disproving this topic. But in refute to your beliefs, the above quote is in a written documentary of the actual convention.
Umm...McCain voted against abortion billions of times, Against the draft
. Against making birth control over the counter. Leaving same sex marriage and abortion to the states though...so its pretty pointless having an opinion on it. His immigration plan is ridiculuos. He is old and dying soon. Palin is no good. He WAS prisoner of war..which whether or not anybody wants to recognize this..is a tremndous thing and shows alot. In my opinion atleast, shows perserverance, strength, loyalty to the country, etc.
Im terrible with politics, but luckily there is the internet. Im voting for McCain, mostly because i still dont think Obama is the right person to run the country. Hes just too shady in my opinion. People he is organized with, his background and opinions on whites when growing up, :"I will stand with the Pakastan or Arab countries should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.", his pastor and that one quote about america(think about it..obama was a front row attendant for a long ass time. thats just one quote that got big...think how many other unfilmed quotes he attended to and agreed with for so many years", and slowly shifting towards a socialist country, etc. I just dont trust him as much as i do McCain. McCain may not make substansial progress like obama HOPES to, but i trust him with the country.
gotta love friday nights of doing nothing haha.
My views- Obama's tax plan, if executed correctly, kills the rich, and helps the poor(a little bit). McCains plan helps everybody, of course not the poor as much as Obama's plan would do. I dont care about social security/medicare at this point in my life haha. McCain be against universal healthcare..which i am more against than for..but i really wouldnt care. Iraq- McCain wants to pull out when we are done with the democracy deal. Understandable, since Bush already went in and screwed things up, staying in and finishing the job so there was some purpose isnt a terrible thing in my opinion. Pulling out quickly would be ideal and i dont think McCain minds if we are in there for centuries. Oh well, I haVe yet to go to Iraq..maybe democracy would be a good thing. It was forced, not a good thing. but what can Jonathon McCainathon do at this point? pull out? ok thats fine. Just leaves Iraq how they were, excepted now they have reason to want to kill us all. I have NO idea what will actually happen, whether we pull out NOW or stay in, so im not going to make a judgement. For the sake of our soldiers though..pulling out is ideal.
Dan:
Christianity...(HAS BECOME) the most perverted system that ever shone on
man. -T.J.
The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of ChristianityÃ?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â??Ã?¦ I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God- John Adams
God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel-Benjamin Franklin, Constitutional Convention of 1787.
etcetc. anybody can find quotes proving/disproving this topic. But in refute to your beliefs, the above quote is in a written documentary of the actual convention.
Umm...McCain voted against abortion billions of times, Against the draft
. Against making birth control over the counter. Leaving same sex marriage and abortion to the states though...so its pretty pointless having an opinion on it. His immigration plan is ridiculuos. He is old and dying soon. Palin is no good. He WAS prisoner of war..which whether or not anybody wants to recognize this..is a tremndous thing and shows alot. In my opinion atleast, shows perserverance, strength, loyalty to the country, etc.Im terrible with politics, but luckily there is the internet. Im voting for McCain, mostly because i still dont think Obama is the right person to run the country. Hes just too shady in my opinion. People he is organized with, his background and opinions on whites when growing up, :"I will stand with the Pakastan or Arab countries should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.", his pastor and that one quote about america(think about it..obama was a front row attendant for a long ass time. thats just one quote that got big...think how many other unfilmed quotes he attended to and agreed with for so many years", and slowly shifting towards a socialist country, etc. I just dont trust him as much as i do McCain. McCain may not make substansial progress like obama HOPES to, but i trust him with the country.
gotta love friday nights of doing nothing haha.