/PROTO Scooters

Yea, I'd also like to know which bearings you recommend. I've been running ceramics for years now and never really had a problem. So yea, what do you like?
 

marcel

Member
I know for sure that ceramics will work but do not use the softer White ( ZrO2 ) balls but use the BLACK ( Si3N4 ) balls they are stronger then most metal balls.
And yes, we also make bearings ourselves so I really know what Im talking about....
 
eagle wheels said:
I know for sure that ceramics will work but do not use the softer White ( ZrO2 ) balls but use the BLACK ( Si3N4 ) balls they are stronger then most metal balls.And yes, we also make bearings ourselves so I really know what Im talking about....
yes i have those bearings and there perfect and my brother can brake reds in like 5 days and we have these for like 3 weeks and there still perfect.
 

marcel

Member
I do not care he brakes everything, or do that means Proto wheels also break?? thats not what he told..or suggested

Its not about product or what ever this was about how to talk to somebody you do not know about and also about not having know how, or maybe not telling the truth........up to you to fill that in..
 

the_SD_local

I own SR.
eagle wheels said:
We even BLEND our own base Urethane OURSELVES and Im 100% sure your factory just buy the base material !!!!
If you are 100% sure then you are 100% wrong.

Also, I machine all my cores and I made all my molds and prototype wheels so I know what I am talking about. I do not pour my own urethane during production runs because I do not have the facilities to do so but they are made to my specifications. Just because you have been doing it for 15 years does not mean I am not educated on this topic. My grandfather used to own the largest synthetic marble plant in North America. I was raised with plastics.

eagle wheels said:
I do not care he brakes everything, or do that means Proto wheels also break?? thats not what he told..or suggested
Of course PROTOs can be broken. No wheel is impervious to defects or normal wear and tear BUT Murphy has not been able to break them yet even after I told him to... and he has broken EVERY other wheel on the market before.

Telling people they can ride their wheels fresh out of the mold front and back is just stupid even if they went through a curing oven. That will completely ruin the lifespan of the wheel. The instructions I give are to prolong the life of the wheel. The fact is, the older the wheel gets the stronger it becomes which is why old Yaks were so good because they sat around for years before people rode them. I have ridden PROTOs the day after they came out of the mold... in fact the entire PROTO HD Promo Video was filmed the day after those wheels came out of the molds but under no circumstances would I ever recommend people to do that if they want their wheels to last.

Stan Smirnoff said:
haha didnt murph break andrews super strong deck?
Um yea, after 2 years... and I'm still riding it. So "super strong" is a gross understatement.

Dom Dalbert said:
he also broke andrews ramp last year at sd2 hah.
Um yea, after 4 years... and I'm still riding that too.

Murphy breaks EVERYTHING. Except PROTO parts.
 

the_SD_local

I own SR.
Tom H SHQ said:
You havnt answered my question Andrew. On page 30
Sorry. Yes, Skater HQ will be carrying PROTO parts. Hopefully they will stock them by March. You will have to talk to Bill about Pricing though.

Conor Davidson said:
Yea, I'd also like to know which bearings you recommend. I've been running ceramics for years now and never really had a problem. So yea, what do you like?
Ceramics are fast but they do not absorb impact well especially in a Metal Core wheel which transfers all impact directly to the bearing. Right now I am running Bones Swiss and they are holding up really well. I really would recommend anything with steel balls. I haven't heard any reviews about Swiss Six in Metal Cores but I'm sure that could be a good option too.

liltony said:
2 years? murphy breaks pro decks every month and yours lasted him 2 years. holy crap.
Basically. And I am still riding it... TRYING to break it completely... and I still can't get it to snap. SO YEA.
 

Madis

Super Geek
Staff member
JoeyR said:
watch them be overpriced.
I will laugh my asss off IF the australian price will be higher than on weescooters.com shop WITH shipping costs.
 

marcel

Member
If you are 100% sure then you are 100% wrong.

Well, thats something we cannot prove, thats right; But tell me how many materials they use to make the Base polymer.......AS far as I know, and Im well informed and experienced there are only two factories in the USA that blend Polymers, in simple words: the base material.
Maybe you are mixing up the final product that is mixed together to pour wheels, prepolymer blending is a far other story.....

Also, I machine all my cores and I made all my molds and prototype wheels so I know what I am talking about

Dont believe I was talking about cores or prototyping........

My grandfather used to own the largest synthetic marble plant in North America. I was raised with plastics

Seems your grandfather does the same as I build up myselve.......

Telling people they can ride their wheels fresh out of the mold front and back is just stupid even if they went through a curing oven. That will completely ruin the lifespan of the wheel.

This was NOT the issue, it was about DEHUBBING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (breaking a wheel) as far as I did read this forum, like all others, you adviced not to ride on them because of the risk of DEHUBBING..........
Well, again, letting a wheel lying down for a month (postcuring) will NOT make that the wheel will not DEHUB (ask yr grandfather) IT HELPS INDEED TO INCREASE THE "LIFESPAN" OF THE WHEEL. In other words used by polymer experts: LESS ABRASION. EXACT WHAT I SAID BEFORE.

So I hope now we both blowed some steam of that all guys on this forum knows the truth or can make their own truth.......
That you do not like me is very ok, I do not need so much friends, but that I am here is because of the sports and because I (also) like the people being truthfully informed.
Information is power, one side information is abuse of power......right?

Good luck and may we have a healty competition.........as said previous: I rather work together then against eachother but when needed........
 
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