I know a bunch of dudes who ride bikes (both bmx and fixed gear) who dig my riding, if you do turndowns and stuff they're really impressed cause they don't think you can do that kinda stuff on a scooter. I was at a park and I did a feeble-manual-noseblunt into a quarter and the bikers there (actual good ones) were blown away, one dude said that he had seen scooters do backflip triple whips and my combo was more impressive. These guys are dudes who film for/ride with all the best riders in Arizona, too.