Spice/K2/Jwh-018

DevonIs1337

DevonIs1337

Member
dude will you please shut the hell up with this "6 people in the ER" noise? if your friends are stupid enough to ingest enough JWH to actually NEED to go to the ER, then it's obviously their own fault.

learn how to consume it safely, it's not an all natural plant like marijuana is... it's synthesized, there ARE side effects, and you CAN hurt yourself if you ingest too much of it at one time. be responsible with it, that's all.
 
Matt Dibble

Matt Dibble

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Staff member
ExistBMX said:
my info is flawed? Yeah thats why 6 people I know have been in the er, guess my eyes, phone, friends and the hospital were joking... shut the fuck up, and dibble seriously, you dont understand what this does to you, once you take 10 minutes of your time to look up information and once you realize that joking around about people in the hospital is wrong then come talk to me

basically when you call me wrong or shit I take it the same as if you went up to a cancer patient and laughed at them for being bald due to kemo, I never joke about things that have caused death or injury, mainly because if some one who was affected by it reads the post it just pisses them off or causes emotional issues
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I'm making rational and coherent points in an attempt at a mature discussion in the grown-up discussion section. You're giving me rambling and incoherent points about different emotional events in your life. (GOML?) lol



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And to really pound in the point I was making, I never called you wrong about anything you said, EXCEPT, when you said a person would "DEFINITELY get seizures."

That is a strong word. I provided just one example of a time in which that didn't happen, so therefore, it was incorrect. I'm not saying your 800 friends who all do spice on the daily to the point of seizure didn't exist. I'm not saying it didn't happen to them. All I said is, if someone smoked that amount, they would NOT definitely go into seizures. That's it. They might, they might not. Just like if you go out in a thunderstorm you might get struck by lightening. In conclusion v2, chill, it's still the internet and I'm still not laughing at a chemotherapy patient.
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
DevonIs1337 said:
dude will you please shut the hell up with this "6 people in the ER" noise? if your friends are stupid enough to ingest enough JWH to actually NEED to go to the ER, then it's obviously their own fault.

learn how to consume it safely, it's not an all natural plant like marijuana is... it's synthesized, there ARE side effects, and you CAN hurt yourself if you ingest too much of it at one time. be responsible with it, that's all.
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2 of them had k2 right out of the bag laced with ketamine, One person bought K2 that someone had made and put .4 of Jwh on 1g (the proper dosage is .3/oz), and 2 were just plain out regular smoking, not more than 3 hits each and both ended up with heart rates around 180 and were having seizures, the last person didn't feel the high so he kept on smoking (7-9 bowls by himself) and then, well take a wild guess!

I re read dibbles posts and Im starting to not be as pissed at them because I took the time to read every word, and just as I was about to bring all this shit to rest you came along
 
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Dan Riopelle

Member
To be honest i feel like the only people who get hurt from spice are those who are stupid about it. I have done plenty of research on the internet and such and I believe a lot of it is bullshit because its the internet. In the past two months I have been getting drug tested for reasons Id rather not discuss, but Ive been using spice and I even bought some in bulk from freedombuds.com. Ive not had any problems yet nor have any of my other friends who do it a lot, and I have a ton of friends who are in similar situations as I am and do it at a pretty consistent level as well. Ill be honest at times when I do it my heart rate does go up a little and I get a little uncomfortable that if I were to smoke anymore something bad might happen, but Ive gone through about 10 grams in the past 2 weeks with no problems, and yes it does leave me with a minor headache but I still enjoy it. People just need to understand that you need to put the pipe down and relax for 15 minutes before you know if you need more or not because this stuff is not natural and since jwh is a chemical created in a lab, nobody knows but its most likely possible to overdose on it, unlike thc.
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
the effects are different for everyone, your experience is unique to you, and it is well known you can OD on it, I dont doubt you did research, nor do i doubt you know what your talking about, but you CAN OD, and it is very well known
 
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Dan Riopelle

Member
I just dont think its that sketchy since I know pretty much everyone I know whos smoked has done spice as well and had no problems, you just need to not be stupid about it
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
or just know exactly what your ingesting, which is hard when it is in a sealed package, if you make your own your better off, like I said one of my friends (neighbor) smoked K2 right out of the packet and went to the er because it had a large amt of ketamine on it
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
ExistBMX said:
or just know exactly what your ingesting, which is hard when it is in a sealed package, if you make your own your better off, like I said one of my friends (neighbor) smoked K2 right out of the packet and went to the er because it had a large amt of ketamine on it
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Where the fuck are you getting spice with ketamine in it? And smoking ketamine is pretty much a waste of K because it doesn't do anything, so your story is fucked. Its also a schedule 3 substance in the US which means it requires a perscription, you cant goto rite aid and get a bottle of ketamine off the shelf.

I never smoked this shit and don't plan on it the way you are trying to force it on people that its gonna put them in the hospital is kind of annoying. Almost anything in your medicine cabinet can put you in the hospital if you use it wrong, maybe your friends are idiots.
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
Brian Boston said:
Where the fuck are you getting spice with ketamine in it? And smoking ketamine is pretty much a waste of K because it doesn't do anything, so your story is fucked. Its also a schedule 3 substance in the US which means it requires a perscription, you cant goto rite aid and get a bottle of ketamine off the shelf.

I never smoked this shit and don't plan on it the way you are trying to force it on people that its gonna put them in the hospital is kind of annoying. Almost anything in your medicine cabinet can put you in the hospital if you use it wrong, maybe your friends are idiots.
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my local head shop was selling it, and using it wrong is abuse of the substance, issues due to people who manufacture it are not personal, if you blender exploded because on of the workers in china fucked up in putting in parts is that your fault? no, but is it your fault if you put 10 bricks in there? Yes

and yes you can smoke ketamine, it produces the fastest "high" but is not a common method because of the bitter taste
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
ExistBMX said:
my local head shop was selling it, and using it wrong is abuse of the substance, issues due to people who manufacture it are not personal, if you blender exploded because on of the workers in china fucked up in putting in parts is that your fault? no, but is it your fault if you put 10 bricks in there? Yes

and yes you can smoke ketamine, it produces the fastest "high" but is not a common method because of the bitter taste
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Using it wrong is the abuse of a substance? What? Abusing a substance is taking it to get yourself high. If I am an idiot and mixed 2 OTC drugs by accident and ended up in the hospital isn't abuse, its user end ignorance or carelessness to do research (reading the box). Abuse is dropping a whole bottle of robitussin to trip my balls off. You can't compare a machine manufacturers error to something like drugs, they are 2 whole different ball games. If your blender exploded you have a lawsuit on your hands... if you took some Mucinex and Nyquill at the same time not realizing they both have Guaifenesin in them and you start bleeding out of your eye sockets thats your own damn fault.

Unless you turn the K into a paste and coated a blunt with it, smoking ketamine powder might give you a slight buzz for like 10 minutes. Google it, you will find a ton of other people saying the same exact thing I'm saying, which gives me more reason to call your ketamine call bullshit.

I have a feeling either you or your buddies aren't telling the truth about their spice smoking experiences.

Also something at the bottom of every dosage page on Erowid

Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.​

Great advice
 
humpurple kushiones

humpurple kushiones

Steel Member
Smoking ketamine is pointless. Ive smoked a blunt laced with ketamine and i didn't feel anything from it. I just felt stoned because of the bud. K isn't something i would actually fuck around with anyway, i only smoked the blunt because i didn't have to pay anything.

And bro, the DEA lists marijuana as a schedule 1 drug:
Schedule I drugs are classified as having a high potential for abuse, no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision
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I don't think they are the greatest source of information lol.
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
ExistBMX said:
http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/ketamine_factsheet.html

smoking it is a common usage, do your research
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Do you seriously take the governments word for how drugs are consumed? Seriously, pop smoking ketmaine in google, front page is full of results of people telling other people its a waste, it doesn't do anything, its a waste of K unless its prepped correctly into a paste or turned into a liquid and smoked through a bong that you can smoke oil through. I used to get stoned and read about drugs all night when I was in high school and researching them to see if any of them were interesting, safe and worth trying. Ketamine was a drug I was interested in trying but never got around to it, but I know for a fact smoking it is a waste and your pretty much just burning them chemical away.

Maybe your buddy railed a line of ketamine before he smoked the spice in front of. Or the hospital just doesn't know what the fuck he was on and said it was ketamine
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
Im going with the hospital fucking up then , I dont like the us government at all because of the bullshit they make up about marijuana, but I do trust their list of consumption methods, thats something that would be pointless to make up
 
DevonIs1337

DevonIs1337

Member
ExistBMX said:
Im going with the hospital fucking up then , I dont like the us government at all because of the bullshit they make up about marijuana, but I do trust their list of consumption methods, thats something that would be pointless to make up
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can you please just stop talking? holy shit.
 
ExistBMX

ExistBMX

Member
Sorry if you a mod or not, but fuck off, I really just gave up on this thread, all it contains is stuff I put up to try to help people not do this shit and the only responses are either nonsence, bull----- or just some ass hole ethugging, Im not posting in this thread again, watch out for this shit though, and if you get into the Er or go into full body paralyzes (a man went into it 3 weeks ago) well, have fun

-im out

fuck you devon, fuck you brian, and fuck you dibble, if you dont want to believe what I am saying then go ahead, but dont come crying to me if someone you knows overdoses or has a bad reaction to the substance, if I ever do post again in this thread it will be medical documents.

peace out ignorant assholes


Edit: here is some fun reading for you guys!
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127188353924252300
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=485945
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11194494
http://scienceblogs.com/terrasig/2010/07/k2_spice_jwh-018_and_synthetic.php
http://fortwaynehomepage.net/fulltext?nxd_id=28315
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/loudoun/several-leesburg-teens-have-us.html
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=2447 (you have to read down to get to the 1500 er visits reported by the AAPCC last year (2010), and those are only the reported ones)

and anthony posted one of the links I had copied and ready for yall
 
The Batman

The Batman

Steel Member
Staff member
ExistBMX said:
Sorry if you a mod or not, but fuck off, I really just gave up on this thread, all it contains is stuff I put up to try to help people not do this shit and the only responses are either nonsence, bull----- or just some ass hole ethugging, Im not posting in this thread again, watch out for this shit though, and if you get into the Er or go into full body paralyzes (a man went into it 3 weeks ago) well, have fun

-im out

fuck you devon, fuck you brian, and fuck you dibble, if you dont want to believe what I am saying then go ahead, but dont come crying to me if someone you knows overdoses or has a bad reaction to the substance, if I ever do post again in this thread it will be medical documents.

peace out ignorant assholes


Edit: here is some fun reading for you guys!
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127188353924252300
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=485945
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11194494
http://scienceblogs.com/terrasig/2010/07/k2_spice_jwh-018_and_synthetic.php
http://fortwaynehomepage.net/fulltext?nxd_id=28315
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/loudoun/several-leesburg-teens-have-us.html
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=2447 (you have to read down to get to the 1500 er visits reported by the AAPCC last year (2010), and those are only the reported ones)

and anthony posted one of the links I had copied and ready for yall
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Please stay out of the mature section. You have been warned.
 
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