"Street elitist."

[Tylerr.]

I have been hearing this term tossed around lately when people are talking about me and the crew of people I ride with. You guys know who that is. I really don't get why people get so upset over the entire thing. We are doing our thing and have fun and the extent of us being "rude" or "hating on park videos" is done through the internet and for the most part none of us pay enough attention to the scooter scene anyways.

People need to think for themselves and look at it with a different point of view. I have only been involved in the sport for the last 4-5 years and I have gone through different phases, pushed mongo until a few years ago and I have been through all that. I just wanna help shape the way scooters are and help give us a solid reputation that can be viewed from outside the sport and people could get hyped on it. I don't know if you guys can see how most kids who ride scooters act but the ones around me and just a lot of kids I see around present themselves terribly, have no skatepark etiquette and just all around act super immature. I am not saying to do things for other people and to act differently or whatever. I just think if more scooter riders stepped up to the plate and realized they are representing an entire sport and movement they would act a little bit differently.

I care about scooters more then anything else in the world and don't wanna see this go a bad direction.

 

[issac p]

yeah im on tyler's side for this one. ive seen some people recently saying that he's a hater, but all he's trying to do is make sure the sport is going in the right direction.
i got some respect for what you're trying to do tyler

 

[Bennett_J]

Street elitists, Park elitists, Flat elitists, Tech elitists, and who knows what else there is out there. All just voice their love for what they ride, if you don't ride street its not a hinderance on your ability to ride, it just means you are applying yourself elsewhere in the sport. Who gives a ----- I love street riding, and Ill call people out for riding flyout or all park, but its really just a thing we all do. Hell, it helps the sport progress because of the ones who cannot take a joke and just ride until they are Dakota at the parks and then talk shit on street, and the cycle repeats.

There is no right or wrong style of riding, we do what we like and enjoy. If others don't like it, sucks to be them. I'll call you a ------ for riding flyout, but do I actually think that you are genuinely a ------? No. I just don't enjoy watching you ride, get the fuck over it and move on.

flamewar\
/flamewar

 

[Travis House]

I really feel like there is a huge disconnect between large groups in our sport.

It's like family. Picture this, the 22 year old big brother doesn't want to hang around his 14 year old little brother all the time. They can't relate and their views and experiences are 100% different.

Big brother doesn't really dig how the little guy rides, trying to learn all the biggest tricks as soon as he can and is eventually getting good at them, although he looks like a wet towel on a scooter. He is constantly comparing himself to his other little riding friends and they get in stupid bickering matches over who can briflip and who "just sucks". He sees them obsessed with their own scooters look and colors, always switching out parts trying to have the best stuff and a new found outlet for his STRONG opinions in the form of the internet.

Now the big brother wants to set him straight, show him it's about the fun, the style, the creativity but theres only so many nice ways to say "you don't understand" without his little brothers 14 year old mind (with it's extensive and unwavering opinions) going into high alert and he thinks he is being under attack and is 100% on defense. The flight continues until they both are too offended and pissed to talk anymore.

The sad part is the little guy may never ever fulfill his new found dream of being a Pro Scooter Rider because he may never mentally or emotionally understand that the sport isn't a competition, comps are comps, scooter riding is FREESTYLE and you don't just fight your way to the top.

and the older guy, he's resentful towards the whole age group for letting this happen to themselves, he wants to take away every part made ofter 2007 and throw them in a drive way with one rickety kicker and no other scooter riders in the whole state and see how long he stays out there riding. That could be a true test.

I see this shit every day and it kills me man, like these kids who have so much potential to be awesome people but they are stuck just bashing each other and being little trolls rather than making true life long riding friends. I'm ashamed of what it's turned into the past two years and we have nobody we can blame, we are just holding on for the ride, doing what we can to hold on to the lifestyle we chose, trying to guide this whole new generation of scooter children down a path that will make them happy, not give them 15 mins of scooter fame.

 

[parrish]

I love you.

 

[alexallupinthis]

I really feel like there is a huge disconnect between large groups in our sport.

It's like family. Picture this, the 22 year old big brother doesn't want to hang around his 14 year old little brother all the time. They can't relate and their views and experiences are 100% different.

Big brother doesn't really dig how the little guy rides, trying to learn all the biggest tricks as soon as he can and is eventually getting good at them, although he looks like a wet towel on a scooter. He is constantly comparing himself to his other little riding friends and they get in stupid bickering matches over who can briflip and who "just sucks". He sees them obsessed with their own scooters look and colors, always switching out parts trying to have the best stuff and a new found outlet for his STRONG opinions in the form of the internet.

Now the big brother wants to set him straight, show him it's about the fun, the style, the creativity but theres only so many nice ways to say "you don't understand" without his little brothers 14 year old mind (with it's extensive and unwavering opinions) going into high alert and he thinks he is being under attack and is 100% on defense. The flight continues until they both are too offended and pissed to talk anymore.

The sad part is the little guy may never ever fulfill his new found dream of being a Pro Scooter Rider because he may never mentally or emotionally understand that the sport isn't a competition, comps are comps, scooter riding is FREESTYLE and you don't just fight your way to the top.

and the older guy, he's resentful towards the whole age group for letting this happen to themselves, he wants to take away every part made ofter 2007 and throw them in a drive way with one rickety kicker and no other scooter riders in the whole state and see how long he stays out there riding. That could be a true test.

I see this shit every day and it kills me man, like these kids who have so much potential to be awesome people but they are stuck just bashing each other and being little trolls rather than making true life long riding friends. I'm ashamed of what it's turned into the past two years and we have nobody we can blame, we are just holding on for the ride, doing what we can to hold on to the lifestyle we chose, trying to guide this whole new generation of scooter children down a path that will make them happy, not give them 15 mins of scooter fame.

hey bro can i turn this in for my report for school? but seriously amen brotha

edit: seriously who the fuckk would talk shit on tyler, like seriously, someone was dropped on their head as a baby

 

[.Gerrit]

Bam. House is the buddha of scooters, steering us all down the path of enlightenment.

 

[Dustin Nooner]

okay heres my question. if your hating on park and blah blah is done on internet only..does that mean people shouldn't get mad if you insult them just because its on the internet? that makes no sense lol. If you guys really wanna do your own thing, let the mongo pushers and park riders ride how they ride. there is gay people in every sport. the scene is a joke and that you are correct with. but it really doesnt effect YOU how others ride.

Tyler, you'd always give me shit for only riding street when you were a park rat. that was also when riding park was "the cool thing to do" You,951,DXG,Andrew Broussard. ALL gave me shit for not riding park. Now you guys are all "street elitist" "street riders" whatever you wanna call it. Look at the scene like its a timeline on paper. "street" is all the sudden a trend...and when you have people doing ONLY rails and grinds and calling themselves street, its a joke. (not aimed at you)

I personally dont care if people ride flat,park,street,garage, rooftops whatever their thing is. Dont be so concerned about "where the sport is going" because in the end of the day. You're riding your scooter the way YOU enjoy it. and nobody can take that away from you. The sport will get where it needs to be. But you dont here Jamie Thomas saying "verts gay as fuckkk tony hawk should 900 el toro. then itd be dope" You hear street skaters stoked for park skaters doing what they cant do.

I see where you're coming from Tyler, I'm in no way trying to be rude or disrespectful. Just showing you from others point of view. keep doing you, filmin your dope street edits and all. What you stand for is a good thing, but the way you guys shit talk, dont expect people not to take it personally is all. Hope we can shred soon man!

 

[btyczki21]

i feel like riding street has become trendy. but i dont care i just like to ride a good mix of both, but i think street is more fun.

who cares, the fact you made this thread just proves how insecure you are with doing your own thing. the best way to accomplish what you want is to just completley ignore the problem.

 

[Jordan Jasa]

and the older guy, he's resentful towards the whole age group for letting this happen to themselves, he wants to take away every part made ofter 2007 and throw them in a drive way with one rickety kicker and no other scooter riders in the whole state and see how long he stays out there riding. That could be a true test.

i believe i passed that exact test baha.

i just would like to say street isn't a "trend" any more than one piece bars are. it is a legitimate part of the sport which is only going to get more and more popular. park isn't going to go anywhere either, just the number of people who ride park vs the number who ride street will balance out.

 

[michaelchavez]

so.....you care about scooters more than you do about food?

 

[paulleparik]

Fuck all this goddamn hating on park and street.
It's scootering! We all scooter. Why can't we all stop pmsing
over this? Park is sick. I love watching videos of ex. Ryan Williams
and Jordan Jasa's videos. Mad park and mad street. We should all have atleast a little
bit of both. I mean really, if you like park over street or vice versa
thats your oppinion and i get that but you shouldnt put down your fellow
riders for doing something they like and hell maybe even theyre goddamn good at it...

But what Im trying to say is that Im sick of all this hate. Our sport
is so goddamn small and we still have yet to come over this debate on
which is "better", park or street.

 

[Steezeman]

i just would like to say street isn't a "trend" any more than one piece bars are. it is a legitimate part of the sport which is only going to get more and more popular.

This is the point to be made. I don't have any problem with park and I'd love to see it expand to the level of bmx and skateboard park riding, where they actually ride the park, not the street obstacles in the park or the single quarterpipe. Stan was on it from ages ago when he was doing transfers and actually riding the skatepark, but now skatepark riding pretty much translates into doing as many tricks as possible, which is why all the "street elitists" are bummed on it. We're bummed on people who go to the same stairset and film a video of different tricks down it because it's no better than a park video. I'll be hyped when people actually start riding parks but so far that's very, very rare.

Next point. We are on scooters, not skateboards, so we need to start calling "skateparks" "scootparks". Right?

 

[Joe Riley]

Next point. We are on scooters, not skateboards, so we need to start calling "skateparks" "scootparks". Right?

Exactly!

In my opinion, ride what you want. Watch the videos you enjoy. Ignore the ones you don't. Negative attention is better than no attention. Don't waste your time hating on others because there's NO positive outcome. It ends in a useless argument that makes no difference.

 

[Tom Cirbee]

Today's scooter scene bores me. I get bummed when I show up at a park and the only scooter riders there are 13 year old spaz machines with scooters that look like rainbow puke. Don't come up to me and ask what deck I am riding and then just ride away after I tell you. That makes me wanna hit a bitch. No one is ever worth talking to when I show up at skateparks.

 

[Zach Hamrick]

I think we should give props for the tricks we throw down, not where we throw them down at. A banger is a banger in my book.

 

[Steezeman]

Today's scooter scene bores me. I get bummed when I show up at a park and the only scooter riders there are 13 year old spaz machines with scooters that look like rainbow puke. Don't come up to me and ask what deck I am riding and then just ride away after I tell you. That makes me wanna hit a bitch. No one is ever worth talking to when I show up at skateparks.

Nah man if you're bored you're not hating. Start getting bummed on stuff then voice your opinion so people are bummed by you and you start the circle of non-boredom.

 

[Riley Hughes]

Next point. We are on scooters, not skateboards, so we need to start calling "skateparks" "scootparks". Right?

i legitimately call my skatepark a scootpark whenever referring to it.

on topic, though, getting creative is the main thing i get pumped on. when people get creative in a park, in the streets, wherever, it's awesome. usually, street videos are more fun to watch though because it's always something new, as opposed to doing a bunch of air tricks on a bunch of quarter pipes.

 

[Can]

I believe that we have a bad reputation for the most part, because there are a lot of park kids who don't really care about the sport itself. I'm not hating on park kids but I think we should make them care about the reputation of the sport.

 

[DavidBryson]

Fuck all this goddamn hating on park and street.
It's scootering! We all scooter. Why can't we all stop pmsing
over this? Park is sick. I love watching videos of ex. Ryan Williams
and Jordan Jasa's videos. Mad park and mad street. We should all have atleast a little
bit of both. I mean really, if you like park over street or vice versa
thats your oppinion and i get that but you shouldnt put down your fellow
riders for doing something they like and hell maybe even theyre goddamn good at it...

But what Im trying to say is that Im sick of all this hate. Our sport
is so goddamn small and we still have yet to come over this debate on
which is "better", park or street.

thankyou!