why do companies over price

[tunney]

ok i am a student in metal working and i know how much this stuff costs to make

proto scs for the chunk of aluminum 2 bucks anodizing about 5 bucks but they sell for 80 bucks

wheels any wheel metal about a doller and urathane like two but sell for 50

phoenix decks the only only diffrence in the decks is the head tube one is 160 for standered but 220 for intagrated look at the diffrence

dont get me wrong phoenix, and proto and lucky and madd are great companies but we're buying scooters not bikes i dont think this should be so expensive

my last point unessasery work for looks because products look good at first but after a month of riding it looks like crap like everything dose like lazer etching or cutting out symbolls of the companies, painting or a sticker will work just fine

if we cut back these stupid unecessery aditions we wouldnt have to spend so much

thoughts?

Wow okay...

Where to begin... Lets start off with material seeing how you "know how much this stuff costs". When you purchase material in bulk you get it cheaper(very basic concept). The material is only one small cost in the final retail price of a part. Once you purchase your material you have to have it machined. If you outsource(which i basically %95 of companies do) the cost is pretty high. I cannot quote a price because every part is different with different process needs so there fore different costs. After it is machined It goes to anodizing, the price again is effected by size, set up and so on. From anodizing it can either go through Laser engraving or to packaging. For laser costs see above. Packaging costs money, Cardboard boxes, wrapping, whatever the packaging needs the item has. From there the company needs to make a profit to continue to produce parts, invest in a team, invest in Research and Development to produce even better parts and so on After the company attaches their mark up they sell the product to Retailers when the retailers receive product they have to make money as well, so the price is marked up again usually between %35 and %50. Now if this is being shipped international you have higher shipping fees along with customs(which can attribute to SkaterHQs high prices, they don't over charge they are barely making their mark up.) All these factors add up and attribute to the final retail price of product.

So basically you take a+b+c+d+e+f=Final Price Not to mention the cost of transportation of product between processes and more. Everything costs money.

This is business. If you don't like the prices, don't buy the product.

 

[Maz.]

End of!! This thread sucks

 

[cralle]

one of my good friends dad owns about 5 cnc machines adding up to around a mill..

i took him a proto scs and ased him out of curiosity how much would it cost to duplicate this..EXACTLY ..he brought up the specs on his computer and how much the lock of alu would cost..then he asked.."And how much do they sell these for?" ..i said "around $65"
he started laughing and then said i can make this for around $35-$40 for you...he didnt make one because i KNOW that is like a copywrite or sum crap...but i was surprised..

Add the cost for anodising, engraving of logos, topcap,starnut,bolts and that you have to make a profit and you have a another story.

Just lock this thread.

 

[humpurple kushiones]

^^ don't lock it, people complain about prices wayyyy too much, this thread is needed.

one of my good friends dad owns about 5 cnc machines adding up to around a mill..

i took him a proto scs and ased him out of curiosity how much would it cost to duplicate this..EXACTLY ..he brought up the specs on his computer and how much the lock of alu would cost..then he asked.."And how much do they sell these for?" ..i said "around $65"
he started laughing and then said i can make this for around $35-$40 for you...he didnt make one because i KNOW that is like a copywrite or sum crap...but i was surprised..

so 40 bucks... plus anodizing, laser engraving the logo, and PROFIT, that is how BUSINESS runs.. ask your friends dad if he will make them and sell them for 40 bucks. if he says yes he is a shitty business man. and no it's not "copywrite or sum crap..." you can make an scs for yourself if you want. i think the scs's patent is still pending so you can even make them and sell them. have fun making money by not marking up your product though.

the computer you're on right now probably cost the company that made it like 10-20 dollars, how much did you pay for it? and you're bitching about a ~60% markup for something made in america?

seriously if you don't even understand the basic concept of business then don't post in these threads, because chances are you will make yourself look dumb.

 

[Maz.]

Yeah companies cant just make stuff and not make a profit

 

[Joe Riley]

Just read the whole thread, so many people are just talking out of their asses lolol.

-Aluminum is NOT cheap. Get that through your thick heads.
-Welders are expensive. I take a welding class, right out of high school I'll be making ~25 an hour. Labor costs money, it's not free.
-CNC Machining is expensive, as well. If they use someone else's machine it's expensive and if they use their own they have to pay it off. Either way, it's not cheap.
-Anodizing, shot peening, laser engraving all costs money.
-Shipping packages and costs need to be considered, as well.
-PROFIT. You guys are idiots. If a company didn't make any profit then you wouldn't see the company for that long. They'd end up going up of business damn quick if they couldn't maintain a constant fund to keep the company growing. Paying for advertisements, workers, sponsored riders, etc. all costs money. Also warranties, if something goes wrong with a company's product what would happen if they didn't have the money to fix it?
Learn your shit before you start an argument. Most of this is simply common sense. smh.

 

[ztkAZ]

Yeah I kno that

Why am i in your sig?

And you can make a proto scs and sell, it. All you have to do is make one little change even put a dent in it and you could sell it

 

[Maz.]

Just read the whole thread, so many people are just talking out of their asses lolol.

-Aluminum is NOT cheap. Get that through your thick heads.
-Welders are expensive. I take a welding class, right out of high school I'll be making ~25 an hour. Labor costs money, it's not free.
-CNC Machining is expensive, as well. If they use someone else's machine it's expensive and if they use their own they have to pay it off. Either way, it's not cheap.
-Anodizing, shot peening, laser engraving all costs money.
-Shipping packages and costs need to be considered, as well.
-PROFIT. You guys are idiots. If a company didn't make any profit then you wouldn't see the company for that long. They'd end up going up of business damn quick if they couldn't maintain a constant fund to keep the company growing. Paying for advertisements, workers, sponsored riders, etc. all costs money. Also warranties, if something goes wrong with a company's product what would happen if they didn't have the money to fix it?
Learn your shit before you start an argument. Most of this is simply common sense. smh.

Shiet 25 bob an hour

 

[Riley Hughes]

Just read the whole thread, so many people are just talking out of their asses lolol.

-Aluminum is NOT cheap. Get that through your thick heads.
-Welders are expensive. I take a welding class, right out of high school I'll be making ~25 an hour. Labor costs money, it's not free.
-CNC Machining is expensive, as well. If they use someone else's machine it's expensive and if they use their own they have to pay it off. Either way, it's not cheap.
-Anodizing, shot peening, laser engraving all costs money.
-Shipping packages and costs need to be considered, as well.
-PROFIT. You guys are idiots. If a company didn't make any profit then you wouldn't see the company for that long. They'd end up going up of business damn quick if they couldn't maintain a constant fund to keep the company growing. Paying for advertisements, workers, sponsored riders, etc. all costs money. Also warranties, if something goes wrong with a company's product what would happen if they didn't have the money to fix it?
Learn your shit before you start an argument. Most of this is simply common sense. smh.

you're exactly right.

bold: and that's right out of high school. professional welders who went to college and have been welding for years cost ~60 an hour.