Help with girlfriend

hes 15?
hahah but seriously zack i asumed you were a normal kid up untill you started this thread
seriously you need to get the fuck out of this parish you have been going to
its fuc.king with ur mind bro
so if yoour father wasnt a christian
does that mean you have to get like amansipated from him
i mean
WTFFFFF
 

Tylerr.

Super Moderator
Staff member
Margaret said:
woah woah woah.

was she in it only for sex, or did she love you and want you.
because then thats just a general stay the fuck away from getting hurt.

but its really dumb to think that dating a non christian girl would lead you to believe in another religion.
if you love your religion that much you dont have to give it up...
then again ive only gone out with god haters or non practicing catholics. that has nothing to do with anything and its not like chose that.

also what are your morals about sex.
abstinence?
Most christians have abstinence.
I personally dont wanna be called the term "christian" as matt olge said. I am a follower of Jesus and personally believe in him. Yes its going to affect descisons in my life.
I personally am chosing not to have a sexual intercourse until im married (make fun of my all you want) not only because its part of my belief's but because i think it will be alot more fulfilling knowing you saved that for your wife. Also what if you have been having premartial sex and its better than when your married or w/e. that will cause you to think about other people than your wife. Who you should be devoted to 100%.
thats just my stance on it.
everyone has their views and ill respect that. I dont think its right to flat out say oh its not real blah blah blah cause dont you hate when "christians" try to tell you that you should live a certian way and what you do isnt right? well by saying "christian's" arnt correct is just stooping as low as certian "christian" people that do that to you. and its really annoying isnt it?

Yes i struggle with my beliefs. I cuss way to much. I put myself is positions i shouldnt be in. but honestly. i hang out with people that smoke/blaze/have sex. and other stuff and i just keep my views seperate. what they do is cool and doesnt affect me.



About God talking to him. Well i know i have felt really strong feelings to do things before like that and i have wrestled with them for months and months. I have felt like its God's way of talking to me.
and i know how he feels.
 

ryno

Member
Coreyfield____ said:
Apple iZackk. said:
Today i rellised, i was happy mwith my desicion.
i miss her, but still, i know its been the right desicon.
because when i was with her, i could only ever think about her and her morals.
now thisway, i relise some of her morals where wrong (christianity point of view)
theyve realy messed with your head havnt they!!hahaha


Apple iZackk. said:
Hmm valid point, but moral issues,
she's in reltaionships for the pysical stuff, the sex etc.
and i defintly wasnt in it for that.
God didnt physicaly say dump her, he was telling me it would be smarter to, or you will get tempted into the sex etc.
"dont be lead into temptation"
god DIDNT talk to you man. lay the fukkkk off LSD! haha

OMFG hahahahahahaha
 

zprestoe

Member
Corey im ignoring you so no point in keep postimg,
everyone saying this religion is screwing with me,
then your very wrong, if i dint want to be a christian, i wouldnt be, this a choice i take, and i love this chocice, this girl is a girl, ill fin the right person 1 day.
And yeh,Margeret (sp?)
yeh im only ever going to have sex after marrage
And to be honest, i dont care about it that much,
it doesnt affect my life at all.
Im totally cool with it like that.
And ben, im not leaving her because she wasnt a christian, im leaving her because she tempted me to be moved away from christ.
Simple really.
and Margeret(sp?)
honestly i really respect your posts in this thread
and Tyleer. <33333
 
Eh, from the start of this thread it was clear that sex was the issue, but I didn't want to be the one that brings that up. As for chrisitian sex morals, they're pretty absurd, but let me tell you why. In medieval times, the church was responsible for setting up life attitudes for everyone in Europe. So let's see: scientific progress is a threat for the religion so people should just work as much as possible to so the social system would not collapse. "Ora et labora". How did they do that? Let's see: some say that everything that's exciting and good in life has to be unhealthy: smoking, drinking, drugs, fat food, extreme sports, etc. So there's the limitation. On the other hand, SEX is the only thing that is both exciting AND healthy (actually makes your body function a lot better). Therefore, they made up absurd laws prohibiting sex in any other form than in marriage only to make pregnancy possible.

Today, however, the situation is different. I'm not saying that people should have sex 24h a day but everyone should limit oneself personally, according to his social and emotional capabilities, his/her partner.

Sexual life is a zone of highest privacy. No superior authority should put any limit on this.

Another thing - contraception. Prohibited because of what? You're not showing the love approach to a child that's supposed to be born because you don't really want any? What about not showing love affection to the real existing grown up person you love when he/she demands it and you're abstinent? Isn't that a lot worse?

Edit: Now that I see it, someone could read what I wrote in bold and be like 'So you thing pedophilia should be allowed?'. Not really. What I wrote applies to mature people, there's a different point in everyone's life when one should be considered mature, which depends on individual characteristics such as the body, emotionality, the society. It's just that young people shouldn't be abused because of their immaturity (on the other hand, age of consent at 18 in some states is crazy, Im 19 and Ive been dating 17 year olds quite recently, does that make me a pedophile?).

On a side note, me and Zack should just switch places. Ive always been in good schools, and thus, Ive never witnessed any sexual pressure put on anyone by the teenager society, while Im sure that anywhere else the effect Im talking about is 100% common. The effect is that any girls that don't seem dumb and worthless have morals high enough not to be interested in sex whatsoever.
 

CodyChirichiello

Steel Member
I am not trying to put down your religion, its cool that you have found something that you feel so passionately about but this is completely absurd. That girl deserves better than you.
 

Big L

Steel Member
So ok, you left a girl you loved, because some voice in your head told you too? honestly i don't care what anyone says, that is retarded, just plain bull shit. Why would you ever do something you didn't want to cause some voice that isn't real told you too, woww.

Holyy shitt i just noticed how much abstinence would suck, could not do that haha

Now i am sorrry if i sounded blunt or anything but i don't talk about religion much probably cause its all a bunch of useless shit people base there whole lives on, but its them wasting there lives, not me.
 

Jordan Jasa

Silver Member
seankane said:
and if that's not enough for you, according to jesus in the bible, if you do as he taught, you'll go to heaven.
a bit late on this, but i had to say. i'm not sure what bible you're reading, but mine said the only way to get to heaven was to believe in jesus as your savior. unless you live a sinless life, which clearly is impossible.

zack. even if you had stayed with that girl, ultimately things probably just wouldn't work out. its really hard to have a meaningful relationship who doesn't share the same beliefs/values as yourself. not saying that its impossible, but your breakup was probably for the better, esp. since it seems like she was it it for selfish reasons.
 

cLeMo321

Member
Apple iZackk. said:
And ben, im not leaving her because she wasnt a christian, im leaving her because she tempted me to be moved away from christ.

And ben, im not leaving her because she wasnt insane, im leaving her because she tempted me to be moved away from insanity.




Fixed as.
 

idk47

Steel Member
Christians accept all religions believer or non-believer. You shouldn't have broken up with her that quickly but you should've really thought about it and decided with God what's the right thing to do. God listens so maybe you need to talk to him about how you feel now that you did it.

And you need to teach your Gf/ExGf what's up, if shes like a satanist or something then idk but just talk to her about how God can help you and maybe she will listen.
 

zprestoe

Member
Oh man, not many people in this thread get where im coming from.


I didnt just do it because of the voice.
She isnt satanic.
Our relationshiip wasnt perfect.

Yeh my message isnt getting sent out right.
Ben im 15.
 

cLeMo321

Member
Apple iZackk. said:
Oh man, not many people in this thread get where im coming from.


I didnt just do it because of the voice.
She isnt satanic.
Our relationshiip wasnt perfect.

Yeh my message isnt getting sent out right.
Ben im 15.

zack. for my own ammusement. can you please quote exactly what god said to you?.
 

JDBen

BST Moderator
Staff member
lol Zack, if thats supposed to be a camera in you avatar, its like as big as your head lmao

cool beans!
 
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