New ZG Deck Shape

[brody01134]

i honestly dont mind the deck, i like the idea, i like that its integrated, i like the integrated back axle spacers, the only thing i dont like is the front of the deck where it points. other than that i would prob buy it

 

[Jake ODonnell]

alright guys,


Im sure allot of people know me because i have been around the scooter community for quite sometime now, and if you don't then you really have no room to talk about how good you are "inferring" this deck is based off of a photo off Facebook. I have been ridding scooters close to 4 years now, and have owned or at least ridden 95% of the decks on the market as we speak. From a non-biased perspective, i can honestly say this ZG 4.0-4.5 deck is the cleanest, solidest, steaziest, deck i have ever ridden. I'm not going to lie to you guys and tell you this deck is the lightest thing i have ever ridden because its not. I would say it weighs less than a lucky, and a little heavier than the phoenix decks. As a weight freak/tech rider, this deck fits my style perfect! It rides sooo smooth, and feels soo dialed when you land your stuff. I really think it has a sleek design; something that stands out from all the other decks, which i don't think is bad at all. I don't understand why all you kids think this deck looks ridiculous? I personally love the design, and think its 10x better looking in person! As for the kids bashing on the "curve design", whats wrong with it really? I think it really gives the deck a great feel, looks steezy, and you cant even notice the curve of the deck. Also, to the kids saying "the deck is not worth the money", well theres no doubt that this product is the most expensive deck in the market right now, but it's the Ferrari of scootering. Kids want a reliable product that meets all their needs. Scootering is like any other hobbie, if i was a fisher and wanted the best fishing pole i would have to pay to dollar! Not every rider may be able to afford this deck, zero gravity understands that. Although you wont find yourself asking santa for a new deck every Christmas when your ridding a ZG. This deck is AMAZING, and i really wish all of you guys could ride it, for at least a session.

pros of the new deck shape:
- Gives riders a 4.0 sense, as well as a 4.5 feeling
- Slides rails, hubbas, ect amazingly.
- cant notice the curve whatsoever
- stands out from all the decks i have ever seen
- looks insanely cool in person, defiantly catches kids eyes at the skate park. I'm always getting compliments on it, and questions on where i got it
- very light
- weight is balanced throughout the deck differently, allowing tailwhips to whip suuper fast :]
- no welds whatsoever (all CNC)
- anodized
- comes with flex brake and FSA head set.
- 100% american materials
- integrated

cons of the new deck shape:
- cost
- looks different than other decks?
- not the lightest deck on the market
- hard to grip?

also, if you are wondering why ZG products are the most expensive on the market, this is why:

"I have heard a lot about ZG parts being expensive well lets break it down and see how they compare to some of the other leading companies starting with the deck. Zero Gravity Spider deck is 250 and it is integrated comes with a fsa and a flex fender and anodized sounds to me like its worth the buck. Even though i do love the lucky brotherhood and Brian and all of the other companies I suggest you buy this deck over any other cnc'd deck or any other deck for that matter. A phoenix standard is 190 according to their website(http://phoenixproscooters.com/standard.php) and phoenix integrated is 220 (http://phoenixproscooters.com/integrated.php) and tsi standards are 160 ( tsiscooters.com) and integrated are 190 so from looking at those companies it looks about that adding integrated adds about 30 bucks if this were to be added to the other cnc'd deck companies it can be amused that there decks would go up 30 bucks. luckys evo's are 180 deck and headtube( luckyscoot.com) adding integrated would be about 210 and a brake about 230 and lastly a fsa headset about 250 to 260 as a predicted value, prorides are 240 alone with integrated and headset probably about 280 to 300. So REALLY the zg spider deck isnt overpriced its an appropriated value and it has a different look and made to not only look like it the best deck on the market but BE the best deck on the market.
I am not saying this because Im on their team Im saying this because I truly love this deck
Go out and buy one today at ridezg.com
you will not regret it "

-Kingsley Okocha

EDIT - ALSO, i was just told that proto decks are the same price, and i don't think their decks are integrated or come with brake! Soo, we arnt the only company with expensive parts!

 

[Chase Marsh.]

I agree with Jake. I trust everything he is saying. I don't think he just says stuff because he rides for them. Lets just put it this way. IF i had 250 dollars, I would definitely want to try this out. End of story. Who gives a F$&# about the damn curves on the sides. Next think you know, people are going to start bagging on tsi cause its not diagonal at the back or at lucky headtubes because there are "holes"? in it. Whoop de freaken do. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. End of discussion.

 

[mason buckley]

its cool but one thing they should do is make it 4.5 to 5 in wide cause i hate 4 in so thats on reason i wont ride it....so that would help for some people

 

[Anthony_Q]

I agree with Jake. I trust everything he is saying. I don't think he just says stuff because he rides for them. Lets just put it this way. IF i had 250 dollars, I would definitely want to try this out. End of story. Who gives a F$&# about the damn curves on the sides. Next think you know, people are going to start bagging on tsi cause its not diagonal at the back or at lucky headtubes because there are "holes"? in it. Whoop de freaken do. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. End of discussion.

people are allowed to voice their opinions.

 

[Rob.]

pros of the new deck shape:
- cant notice the curve whatsoever
- stands out from all the decks i have ever seen

- 100% american materials
- integrated

cons of the new deck shape:
- cost
- looks different than other decks?

First bold: What's the point then?

Second bold: Who cares? If I showed you a slab of metal from China or America I doubt you could tell the difference...

Third: The difference between Proto, Phoenix, and ...Lucky..., is the fact that ZG came out and BAM huge price.

Phoenix, Proto etc have been out for a while, have a large fan base/people who trust their parts, and therefore people see the price and can research the stuff. ZG just kinda came out and slapped a large price tag on everything.

 

[Jake ODonnell]

First bold: What's the point then?

Second bold: Who cares? If I showed you a slab of metal from China or America I doubt you could tell the difference...

Third: The difference between Proto, Phoenix, and ...Lucky..., is the fact that ZG came out and BAM huge price.

Phoenix, Proto etc have been out for a while, have a large fan base/people who trust their parts, and therefore people see the price and can research the stuff. ZG just kinda came out and slapped a large price tag on everything.

1. Its steezy looking, and saves a little bit of weight, when you cant notice the change in width

2. You might not be able to tell the difference of the material by looking at it, but performance wise is where american material and material from other countries is different. I believe this deck is made with 100% american pure 6061 t6 aluminum. This is the difference between other decks (lucky, pheonix, ect) because im assuming their decks are made from metals in different countries because they are cheaper. Non-american materials are cheaper because they are not 100% pure, they usually have other mixed materials in the metal, which gives the chance that not all of their decks are the EXACT same weight, and other stuff (tod was telling me about this the other day). As you can see, this is a prime example showing that Zero gravity believes in quality parts, and is always thinking of new ways to please their customers! I hope this made sense to you Rob and im glad you brought it up.

3. Zero gravity isnt going to lower it's prices just so "they can gain kids trust that their parts are legit". We know our parts are the best on the market.

 

[parrish]

1. Its steezy looking, and saves a little bit of weight, when you cant notice the change in width

what if i want a heavier deck?
EDIT:1900

 

[Jake ODonnell]

what if i want a heavier deck?
EDIT:1900

than get the ZG spider!

http://ridezg.com/?page_id=448

 

[parrish]

what if i dont want a spider on the top of my deck? and btw that vid you just out up was awsome, even though it was extras

 

[Jake ODonnell]

what if i dont want a spider on the top of my deck? and btw that vid you just out up was awsome, even though it was extras

zero gravity is making new decks without the spider on top, which will lower the cost as well.

I dont know for sure if they are out yet, but i know tod said something about that. Oh, and the new decks with the curve dont have the spider logo.

 

[Rob.]

I don't understand how refined metals can be any more or less pure from either country. You're acting as if Phoenix/Proto whatever company doesn't get the best materials. I think Phoenixes are made out of 6061.

 

[Jake ODonnell]

well lets see,

refined metals are metals put together from scrapes of various material. Therefor, the final product might not be 100% 6061, but might have other mixed metals within it. Dose this make sense to you? And yes, i am "acting as if pheonix/proto decks are not using the best material", because the best most reliable material is USA manufactured. Although, i am INFERRING that these other companys are not getting their materials from the united states. The only company that i know for sure that dosen't use american materials, is lucky.

 

[Rob.]

I understand how metal is made. I still don't see how dirt from one part of the globe is better than the same quality dirt from another.

Phoenix is tough as nails, so I guess China metal is on par with American metals. I've never in my life seen a Phoenix broken at metal (not weld). Until ZG decks prove themselves as thoroughly as Phoenixes have, I'll have to stick with the cheaper alternative. "China" metal ftw.

 

[Justin Vogelsberger]

Agree

 

[J SWEETS]

I understand how metal is made. I still don't see how dirt from one part of the globe is better than the same quality dirt from another.

Phoenix is tough as nails, so I guess China metal is on par with American metals. I've never in my life seen a Phoenix broken at metal (not weld). Until ZG decks prove themselves as thoroughly as Phoenixes have, I'll have to stick with the cheaper alternative. "China" metal ftw.

bam. <3

 

[Zero Gravity NW]

bam. <3

Hey Jona didnt you just email yesterday regarding your sponsorship request? Haha! Thats not really standing up for ZG.

 

[J SWEETS]

Hey Jona didnt you just email yesterday regarding your sponsorship request? Haha! Thats not really standing up for ZG.

Hey dude, i'm going to be honest, i'm not going to kiss your butt to get sponsored, i do believe your parts are some of the strongest out there, but i'm going to have to go with rob on the metal thing, plus he was kinda (and i mean kind of) bashing phoenix for making fun of there processes. Saying that there metal wasn't the same every time.

 

[Zero Gravity NW]

I understand how metal is made. I still don't see how dirt from one part of the globe is better than the same quality dirt from another.

Phoenix is tough as nails, so I guess China metal is on par with American metals. I've never in my life seen a Phoenix broken at metal (not weld). Until ZG decks prove themselves as thoroughly as Phoenixes have, I'll have to stick with the cheaper alternative. "China" metal ftw.

For the record I never said Phoenix or Lucky are using Chinese material. I am sure they use full usa materials. Phoenix for one is an extrusion which is a lot cheaper to produce than a cnc deck. The problem is you have to weld a neck to it which does create a weak point. We all know welds are the weak points on most decks.

Here is the description from our web site for the spider if you have not read it. The curved deck is the same except the top plate.

The ZG Spider is by far the best quality deck on the market and is designed and manufactured in the USA. We start by using a 5 inch wide x 1.5 inch thick x 21 inch long block of top grade made in the USA 6061 t6 aluminum. It is then machined by some of the best CNC machines in the world. This ensures that every scooter deck is exactly the same with no variance in size or shape, making each deck perform exactly the same. The decks are sent to be anodized and then the deck logo is machined in afterwards to give the Spider deck a look like no other. Each Spider deck has integrated rear spacers eliminating the hassle of putting in spacers or washers when installing the wheel. This also prevents axles from bending or breaking. The drop outs are counter balanced to create a lighter feeling deck and a better feeling, easier to catch whip. Also the unique curved bottom rails makes certain slide to whip tricks more achievable, by creating a downward motion making for a faster whip. The bottom rails are also a full 4.5 inches wide at front and back of deck allowing for awesome 50/50 grinds. We have also created a very cool pocket on the bottom at the rear of the deck. This is a perfect grab handle for superman deck grabs and any other grab trick your heart may desire! Also notice the flat and flush section just in front of the rear drop outs, these are for painless finger whips. You will not find another deck out there that has as much thought and engineering behind it. The Spider is truly a one of a kind scooter and is desired by all who test ride them.

Head tube angle-82.5

Deck length-20in.

Deck plate width-4.5in

Weight just above-3.5lbs.

Deck includes flex brake and FSA head set.

Fits stock razor axles.

Notice the size of material used for the deck. Its a lot bigger then needed but this ensures all decks are the exact same. All material can come bowed or warped. I have noticed on other cnc decks that there are factory milling marks. This could result in a slightly warped or bowed deck. Also when welding any part of the deck things start to move and warp, so not all decks will have the exact angles. We experienced with our old welded decks head tube angle could vary up to 1.5 degree. Now that’s a huge difference in how far the top of your bars would sit. All of our parts are made in one location, so the quality standards are all the same and very high.

Also ZG has been around for about 5 yrs but just recently made our way into the public eyes. Just ask Tyler Bonner how long we have been around. I have been trying to get him to ride for us since he was like 12!

We wanted to make sure our products were tried and tested before selling them in large scale. Its funny how you all will go buy a 90 dollar deck and most of them broke in the 1st month and still trust them to produce a quality deck, but trash talk ZG when not one of out of the 1st 50 spiders produced have broke and only 4 out who knows how many of our old ones have broken.

Now we realize this deck is not a fit for everyone. We are not trying to sell to the average skilled rider. Our goal is to make the strongest, nicest finish, best handling deck on the market. And so far we are accomplishing that!

So what do you do if you have budget for a honda but want a porsche? You buy a honda and and work to save up for the porcshe!

 

[Anthony_Q]

For the record I never said Phoenix or Lucky are using Chinese material. I am sure they use full usa materials. Phoenix for one is an extrusion which is a lot cheaper to produce than a cnc deck. The problem is you have to weld a neck to it which does create a weak point. We all know welds are the weak points on most decks.


So what do you do if you have budget for a honda but want a porsche? You buy a honda and and work to save up for the porcshe!

Show me one phoenix that broke at the weld.

also your deck is more like chrysler than a porche.