/PROTO Scooters

[Aaron Huff]

WAIT. Since the fork doesn't even go into the bars anymore, won't that make the bars more prone to snapping right above the clamp?

You wont need slits in your bars anymore so no not really.

 

[jtom2343]

yea but he's talking about at the top of the clamp since there isnt a fork where the top of the clamp is

it doesnt matter though

 

[Rob.]

they'll still be hollower.... it seems really weaker now, not having something more solid inside my bars... i mean, if there were bars with a thick inner diameter made specifically for the compression, go for it, but it seems like it would be weaker... i dunno. i've never had a threadless fork/compression anyway.

 

[Aaron Huff]

A fork tube inside of the bars doesn't really contribute to the strength of the bars. I doubt you'd snap a pair of one piece bars made out of chromoly at the steering column.

 

[jtom2343]

yea actually you have a point

usually where the clamp ends there is still fork inside the bars

but there the fork ends with this system there is still clamp...which is better?

idk if its been tested then yea
i seriously doubt andrew would invent a system that was actually weaker i think this way is legit

 

[Roycee]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN that compression is fuckenn nuts !

 

[the_SD_local]

wow andrew im sorry for doubting you man, can you explain how to use bigger bars and how to adjust height for me a little more, i still dont quite understand those, oh and does the bmx starnut fit into .120 wall forktubes? i will purchase this when i get the money man, im already selling my fork right now though because bars come first

Since your bars no longer need slits at the bottom (and you have to cut the bottom 2 inches off your bars anyways) you can easily shorten your bars by making one cut, plugging them in the clamp and going. No more notching. If you have a starnut setter you can probably get a starnut in some .120 but I would not even try with a hammer and socket or just go to a bike shop.

extremely smart, but why does it cost $65?

Billet aluminum, anodizing, laser engraving, star nuts, compression cap, hardware? This stuff didn't just grow on trees you know, besides the price is not final until it is posted in the store.

Isn't the part that most people hate about inverted compression the starnut? Because you still have to put it in

Putting it in forks is a LOT easier. You only have to pound it in a quarter as deep as with the inverted. Plus 1-1/8" star nuts are cheap and easy to find if you mess up unlike 1-1/4" which people use in bars for the inverted. Once more people start riding these and the trend catches on I will start selling my forks with threaded inserts then starnuts will be history. I'm just slowly phasing out the old technology with the new... if I released everything I wanted to, how I want to, all at once then people would overload and parts would not be compatible and it would just make it far too complicated and expensive for people to invest in this stuff because they would have to by everything at once instead of being able to buy it piece by piece like I am making it possible to do now.

WAIT. Since the fork doesn't even go into the bars anymore, won't that make the bars more prone to snapping right above the clamp?

it seems clever, but not very strong. nothing inside the bars, so couldnt they snap easier? wouldnt it snap easily above the clamp? you would need thicker bars.

I just want both of you to take a moment and really think about what you are saying... I'm shocked and baffled that anyone would even suggest this:

- Do you realize that forks are hollow, like bars?
- Do you realize that a circular structure is the strongest thing on the planet?
- Do you realize that (to my knowledge) no one has EVER broken an aftermarket steering column IN THE MIDDLE???
- Do you realize that a forktube shoved up your bars adds no measurable strength what so ever?
- Do you realize that the only place steering columns do break is at the top of the slit where they are weakened from cutting a slit in it... and now you don't need a slit?
- Do you think I would really invest this much time and money into a product that made your scooter weaker?

Next question.

 

[TomHiette]

Damm Andrew.

 

[cory]

I'm pretty sure a triangle structure is the strongest thing on the planet... So just make everything triangular ;] just kidding. It looks good tho i think i'll invest in one until Inward comes out with something similar.

 

[Geordie]

dudeesssss
pretty sure that theyve been tested by 5 different riders
assuming its the whole proto/sr team the test would def be legit
and saying that...
he wouldnt release something that'd make ur scooter weaker
stop worrying
chill

 

[the_SD_local]

There were 5 prototypes.

#001 - Andrew Broussard began testing the first unit in March of 2008
#002 - Anthony Bustos began tetsing April 2008
#003 - Brian Murphy began testing May 2008
#004 - Brandon Kilbury testing June 2008
#005 - Madis Kukk began testing July 2008 to evaluate for future distribution

All prototypes are still functioning perfectly today.

 

[todd]

so just so i understand even though you have to cut the slits off ur bars since it doesnt slide down the fork it will not take away from ur ride height anyways? or am i missing something? BTW i think this idea kicks ass so hard

 

[the_SD_local]

The SCS (Standard Compression System) adds 2 inches to your bar height so by cutting off the bottom 2 inches that have the slit you just bring it back down to your original height and for anyone who has old BUFFS or one pieces that they broke at the bottom slit and thought were no good anymore... well they are good again.

 

[Aaron]

I'm pretty sure a triangle structure is the strongest thing on the planet... So just make everything triangular ;] just kidding. It looks good tho i think i'll invest in one until Inward comes out with something similar.

Triangles have 3 connecting points, therefore making weak points.
How many connecting points does a circle have again?

Its an amazing invention.
To people doubting it..
Was he not the first to make the best aftermarket forks, bars and wheels?
That being said, i'm sure he can be the best at aftermarket compression systems too, right?

 

[the_SD_local]

Was he not the first to make the best aftermarket forks, bars and wheels?
That being said, i'm sure he can be the best at aftermarket compression systems too, right?

I'm sure one could argue that is a matter of opinion... but I still appreciate it, a lot.

Seriously.

Wait til you see the decks...

 

[Hep Greg]

thank god you changed the pointy ass corners. those things hurt

i like the whole "brass knuckle" thing. it looks way better than the prototypes.

is the clamp shorter at all? or is it just as tall as the ones ive ridden.

 

[redline582]

Was he not the first to make the best aftermarket forks, bars and wheels?
That being said, i'm sure he can be the best at aftermarket compression systems too, right?

I'm sure one could argue that is a matter of opinion... but I still appreciate it, a lot.

Seriously.

Wait til you see the decks...

I cant wait.
The new brass knuckles compression system is probably one of the best ideas ive ever seen. With this kind of progression in freestyle scootering its going to grow to be a popular sport in no time.

 

[JonnyJonDogg]

i cant waitttttttttttt for brass knuckles

 

[the_SD_local]

 

[JonnyJonDogg]

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG