Are you Kidding me Scooterresource?

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instinctscooter

Silver Member
The reason we're "cracking down" is because now I work full time on the Scooter Resource and we actually have the means to. Before it was just a few people who were on the site every now and then, but since I am on here regularly we decided to start enforcing rules that hadn't been before.

P.S. - If everyone is so bummed about the sport being small and this hurting it, why are you not complaining about Inside making a new forum and splitting up the sport?

inside might be making a new forum as people are getting tired of this one, i dont find it too bad but its kinda sad on new companies who are there for the sport and need to get big before they can start paying u $300+ per year. i know its not much but it all ads up
 

spencer cunningham

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The Batman

Steel Member
Staff member
You guys sure love feeding from the zesty nipple of the drama mama eh? I'm not going to chime in, I'll just let andrew tell you guys off, mainly because you guys are overreacting on a subject you dont fully understand.
 

Vaughn.H

Member
P.S. - If everyone is so bummed about the sport being small and this hurting it, why are you not complaining about Inside making a new forum and splitting up the sport?

really? you have got to be kidding me. inside making a new forum isnt hurting the community at all, its only making it grow.

and its not splitting up the sport either, we are just moving to inside cause SR is DEAD. I used to think SR was the shit cause i could see new products from all of the companies all in one place, i could see the growth of the sport through sr
seeing the updates from companies about parts or riders.

And now all that has changed because money got into the equation.

So its either give us money and you can be apart of this scooter community,
or dont give us money and dont be apart of this community.


YOU guys are the ones splitting up the sport.
 

The Batman

Steel Member
Staff member
really? you have got to be kidding me. inside making a new forum isnt hurting the community at all, its only making it grow.

and its not splitting up the sport either, we are just moving to inside cause SR is DEAD. I used to think SR was the shit cause i could see new products from all of the companies all in one place, i could see the growth of the sport through sr
seeing the updates from companies about parts or riders.

And now all that has changed because money got into the equation.

So its either give us money and you can be apart of this scooter community,
or dont give us money and dont be apart of this community.


YOU guys are the ones splitting up the sport.

its 25 bucks dude, and its mainly to pay for making the ads, and the rest of the staff. its not like andrew is pocketing the money as he grins over his diabolical plan to split up this community.
 

DevonIs1337

Member
its 25 bucks dude, and its mainly to pay for making the ads, and the rest of the staff. its not like andrew is pocketing the money as he grins over his diabolical plan to split up this community.

so stupid.

you might as well start charging kids every time they post a video of themselves riding in the Video section.
 

devinthedew2

Steel Member
Its not the point that its 25$ a month its the point that there making you pay just to put up a thread on there sight. Why doesn't andrew if hes the one making this rule or anyone else that works at the shop actually restock the parts on freestyle depot to get money instead of doing this.
 

Steezeman

Administrator
^ This has nothing to do with Freestyle Depot, all the revenue generated from The Scooter Resource goes straight into The Scooter Resource.
you might as well start charging kids every time they post a video of themselves riding in the Video section.
How is that even remotely related to what we are talking about?
 

DevonIs1337

Member
because it's just as fucking absurd as charging a company to make a thread for their products.

if they want to make a banner ad that displays on every page of this forum, then that's one thing... but charging them $25 a month for a simple thread for their products? you people are just fucking selfish.

you want to charge TSI/Phoenix/etc. for promoting their products on here that direct customers to their main website? then you might as well charge talented riders for promoting their skills on here that direct viewers to their main youtube/vimeo channel.

such idiots.
 

Vaughn.H

Member
^ agreed.

and to be honest ive lost a whole heck of alot of respect for scooter resource, proto, and buff.
It just goes to show that money is the new god in this world.
 

.Gerrit

ya boy boo radley
Staff member
i think someone should pay 25 bucks just to put up a banner that says "dont advertise here."
 
Hea guys, i understand your upset, but arguing with the person in charge and whining about isnt going to help what you want or the scooter community. Simply make the point your trying to make in a reasonable mature fashion and they may listen. Just stop fighting it wont help. -iridebrakeless
 

tunney

Steel Member
Both parties have very valid points.

From one side of the coin you have the forum who can supply and generate views which promotes brand awareness. Brand awareness is VERY important to a company because it keeps the core demographic thinking about that brand. Which in turn will help to generate sales, improve the brand image and so on.

From the other side, From an outside perspective it can seem money hungry. A banner ad and a thread are two very different things. While they still can achieve the same goal, more often than not. A company, when posting a thread or updating their thread, is trying to display new product(that ultimately helps grow this industry) and not trying to say "Go buy now!". It that were the case i would see a problem.

ISF was going to implement this action when it first started, we decided that threads on a public forum should be public domain. We do however require approval to post. We like our Industry section clean.
 

Vaughn.H

Member
chris that was spoken like a true business professional.

you really need to come to reedville sometime soon
 

The Batman

Steel Member
Staff member
chris that was spoken like a true business professional.

you really need to come to reedville sometime soon

Unlike the rest of you who rage about how SR is DEAD and how you have lost so much respect from everyone. Its disrespectful and shows what a bunch of jackasses you guys are when ever you stir up drama on here. This site has been around since the stoneage and god forbid it shows any development financially and as a community in the sport. Lets not forget that SR is technically a company itself now, and until now it has let other company's grow and communicate with people on here. If they are still not able to hold their own, and pay the price (a small sum of something you would pay hundreds for on a site with such huge traffic) then they are failing as a company.
 

Vaughn.H

Member
all they are doing is making sr less of a community!!!! holy shit people are ignorant!

if sr wants to make some money well good for them! But they are going about it the wrong way!!!

and that is what everyone has been trying to say but for some reason you mods just dont get it.
 

the_SD_local

I own SR.
Firstly, sorry I don't post here as much as I used to but I am pretty busy these days, however, this topic seems to require some serious clarification.

Secondly, hopefully I haven't lost my touch at assembling an unstoppable wall of text for those who care to read it so here we go...

The Scooter Resource is now implementing an advertising program for scooter companies in the industry to gain added exposure on the largest and oldest freestyle scooter website on the internet with 7 different packages to choose from depending on your budget starting at $25 a month. Every single package includes some form of banner space on the home page, article pages or forum as well as a company specific section in the new "Show-Room" forum in the Classifieds section. Every company that has a Show-Room is allowed to assign their own company representative/moderator for their section to control the discussions and there is no limit to the amount of threads you want to have about your company, products, contest, team, etc. in your Show-Room. Depending on the package you also get a set amount of monthly home page updates about your companies products, team, contests, etc. and when such updates are made a corresponding thread will be created and linked to your Show-Room so there is no "navigation" required. Instant exposure. We also offer in-house Ad-Building for a fee to help companies attain a more professional appearance if they do not have the resources at their disposal to do so themselves.

To address a few comments and concerns:

so what, do we all just make new threads when we want to update the community about something to do with our businesses? say torn comes out with a new part? how will i update you guys?
Post a lot with it in your signature? Your Scooter thread? Eye Candy thread? Then when you decide to get serious with your business you can spend $25 a month and have free reign over your own Show-Room, banners and updates. Please don't take this the wrong way but if you are trying to start a scooter company and $25 is too much to ask then you might want to rethink your game plan. SD5 was $500 just for a booth space the day of the event and it was the biggest comp yet...

Are we gonna delete the Trading Post next because people get to advertise their parts for free? lol, what a crock of shit.
No. Stop. Think.

i didnt read a singl post, so all im gonmna say is, when you want to advertise something lets say on a billboard, its not going to be free. think of a thread being a billboard.
idk
Thank you for using your brain and not jumping on the bandwagon. Advertising is part of running a business and business expense.

just out of curiosity does lucky scooter parts pay for u guys for advertising there parts at the top
Yes, and there are numerous other companies getting their ads ready at the moment so most of the "locked" threads will be getting moved to the companies Show-Room and reopened for discussion.

But billboards EVERYONE can see easily. And everyone can see the ads on top of the site easily.
But threads you cant you have to navigate to them
As stated above, no navigation will be required because there will be banners and updates linking to everything.

whoever decided on this new "rule" is straight up retarded.
It is an old rule that is now being enforced again because we now have the means to provide better, more professional alternatives to helping companies gain exposure.

Its not the point that its 25$ a month its the point that there making you pay just to put up a thread on there sight. Why doesn't andrew if hes the one making this rule or anyone else that works at the shop actually restock the parts on freestyle depot to get money instead of doing this.
FD is not SR nor is PROTO. They are all separately run business with their own bank accounts and budgets. If SR is going to start providing more content and bringing on dedicated staff to do so then SR needs to generate funds on its own to pay for these things. It will help companies gain a more professional level of exposure and it will provide more worthwhile and interesting content for the users. Win/win?

On that note you may have seen that Alex Steadman has been posting some fairly in depth content recently. Aside from plain old "copy and paste" company updates and web video embed codes most blogs do, SR is actually gearing up for weekly content updates which has been the plan for years now but had a few set backs. These updates will actually be rich in intellectual substance, written and punctuated properly using proper structure, grammar and syntax. If none of that makes sense to you then you are the exact reason we are doing it, to enlighten you and hopefully help the sport grow, mature and become more professional in hopes of a more mainstream audience. To do this you need a qualified and educated staff capable of presenting the sport the way it should be not the way it is and that does not come free.

Long story short, for the amount of traffic SR gets and the ammount of exposure companies stand to gain, the Ad pricing is retardedly cheap and the revenue generated is being used to bring on dedicated staff to make the site better for you, the users. I'd be willing to bet that most of you still live with your parents who pay for everything and you have no real concept of independence, running a business or cash flow so I'm not taking any of these harsh and absurd comments personally. If you don't like what we are doing it is still free to complain. As for those saying this forum sucks and they are going to use another just remember that a forum is only as good as it's userbase and when all the forums in our sport have all the same users that makes all the forums the same. The only thing that sets a site apart is the extra curricular content and substance we can provide to the sport and that is what we are focusing on now.

Hopefully this clears up some of your concerns because I don't have enough time in a day to keep posting like this. I have a few businesses to run, a sport to promote and a scooter to ride. Thank you. Good day.
 

devinthedew2

Steel Member
I can understand paying money for a banner thats totally reasonable. But people should be able to make threads about there company without paying money and thats the truth.
 
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