New: Phoenix tlc fork

R-Dubya

Steel Member
You don't need to use a compression bolt. You screw the shim on and that's what compresses it. The reason it's good is because when you clamp your bars on, the shim will never rotate because it's threaded on and clamped. That makes it way harder for bars to get off-center.

Or, depending on how well it works and how tight you clamped it, the bars could spin the shim off, equaling a complete failure of this idea. Especially if you're supposed to tighten the shim by hand. This entire idea is stupid imo, HIC didn't need any more modifications, it worked perfect how it was. Now you need specific bars, forks, and HIC shim all from one company just to make this compression work.
 

BenJelinek

Administrator
Staff member
Or, depending on how well it works and how tight you clamped it, the bars could spin the shim off, equaling a complete failure of this idea. Especially if you're supposed to tighten the shim by hand. This entire idea is stupid imo, HIC didn't need any more modifications, it worked perfect how it was. Now you need specific bars, forks, and HIC shim all from one company just to make this compression work.

My thoughts exactly.
 
i dont like it.. its like the weakness of threading combined with the annoyingness of hic and having to take ur bars off everytime u wanna tighten ur shit
 

Scott Trainer

Super Moderator
Staff member
I dont get it. So the cap/ shim thread on, but then theres no need to put a bolt through the shim into the fork, cause it cant tighten anymore if the shim itself is threaded on...?
Unless youre supposed to just use one of the other. And wouldnt the threads weaken the fork?
So many questions. Phoenix needs to make a video tutorial to clear everything up about this.
 

Carson .

Steel Member
Well the threads are so high up and not at any stress point so it's not going to snap there. Also they still hhave the integrated starnut for other compressions im guessing? so its still really thick.
 

Nate Rita.

Steel Member
If I remember correctly, you tighten the HIC shim by hand. I don't believe anyone has had a problem with the bars spinning the HIC shim off the fork.
 
am i the only that realized how this works? you screw the shim on which compresses the headset eliminating the need for top cap, bolts, allan keys etc. the threads are at no weak point. hic was made simpler. probably work better with a bit on it where you use a wrench to tighten it down abit more
 
the bars are not threaded


the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the bars are not threaded

the SHIM is threaded onto the FORK then a bolt goes through the SHIM into the FORK and the bars clamp onto it all.

it's unnecessary but whatever, kinda neat.
i think thats how it works at least

Wrong. You don't use a bolt at all. You thread on the shim to adjust your headset play/compression, then clamp your standard HIC bars on to lock it. No compression bolts required.
 

R-Dubya

Steel Member
am i the only that realized how this works? you screw the shim on which compresses the headset eliminating the need for top cap, bolts, allan keys etc. the threads are at no weak point. hic was made simpler. probably work better with a bit on it where you use a wrench to tighten it down abit more

Having to specifically buy Phoenix HIC bars, this shim, AND TLC forks, just to make this compression work.

Creating a threaded fork so that your threaded HIC shim can thread onto your threaded forks and resulting in a "threadless" compression.

Yeah, man, way simpler than just using a stupid bolt.
 
How to make a fcking epic compression.
Use phoenix TLC, then put a topcap and bolt through it(A.K.A HIC)
Haha that would probably work pretty good, concidering they still kept the threaded insert in.

Shit be stupid. No it's not simpler, as you have to buy parts all from the same company and all that shit. Also, with the shim being so thin(as its a shim), I bet you it would actually mold to the fork, not like with bars and threaded forks, much worse then that. Until it'd be actually really hard to get off.
 

R-Dubya

Steel Member
How to make a fcking epic compression.
Use phoenix TLC, then put a topcap and bolt through it(A.K.A HIC)
Haha that would probably work pretty good, concidering they still kept the threaded insert in.

Shit be stupid. No it's not simpler, as you have to buy parts all from the same company and all that shit. Also, with the shim being so thin(as its a shim), I bet you it would actually mold to the fork, not like with bars and threaded forks, much worse then that. Until it'd be actually really hard to get off.

The shim is twice as thick as a normal shim, because it's for use with the HIC Suicides. But it's aluminum, as is the fork. I don't know about you guys, but I like to rely on threads that aren't going to strip easily to hold my scooter together lol.
 
^^ This. And oops sorry I didn't know about the shim, does this mean the HIC bars dont work with anything other then this? o.0
But yeah has aluminum threaded forks ever been done before or is this a first?
 

R-Dubya

Steel Member
^^ This. And oops sorry I didn't know about the shim, does this mean the HIC bars dont work with anything other then this? o.0
But yeah has aluminum threaded forks ever been done before or is this a first?

Aluminum threaded forks have been done before, but I don't know how they held up.

And yes, in order to run TLC compression you need ALL Phoenix parts, including the 125 dollar HIC bars that are priced that way due to the HIC shim you get with them, which is useless since you need the threaded one. So you need Phoenix HIC bars, TLC forks, and the TLC shim, and you can't change out any parts for anything different or it won't work.
 
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