New: Phoenix tlc fork

[markmacwan]

It's a cool idea I guess, but I don't think it will become to popular.

 

[Joe Collins]

Wrong. You don't use a bolt at all. You thread on the shim to adjust your headset play/compression, then clamp your standard HIC bars on to lock it. No compression bolts required.

right^
its so simple

 

[Derek Seay]

aluminum threads are going to strip so easily..

 

[Mikey G]

No pressure is on the threads unless the bars aren't clamped. You use the shim to compress the headset, then the bars go on and clamp it all together. This means the shim can't move, making no pressure on the shim or threads.

 

[Phoenix One]

Aluminum threaded forks have been done before, but I don't know how they held up.

And yes, in order to run TLC compression you need ALL Phoenix parts, including the 125 dollar HIC bars that are priced that way due to the HIC shim you get with them, which is useless since you need the threaded one. So you need Phoenix HIC bars, TLC forks, and the TLC shim, and you can't change out any parts for anything different or it won't work.

I'm not saying any of the other compression systems are bad. I just had an idea and i wanted to make it. The threads on the steer tube wont strip because once you tighten the clamp, it locks the threads. Plus the threads are on the outside diameter of the steer tube and because it is 1 1/8 diameter it is actually very strong.

Also, even though SCS and HIC are good, they both rely on starnuts. When i came up with TLC, i was trying to eliminate the starnut due to problems of them either stripping or pulling up in the tube. There is so much leverage on scooter bars at the junction of the bars and fork, that i wanted to come up with a way to lock it together so you wouldn't have to constantly adjust it.

Yes, right now this only works with our bars. There was no way to make the shim super thin and still be strong. I am willing to let other companies use the TLC concept if they want to make compatible bars or forks.

Retail on our iHIC bars is $129 and our TLC forks will retail for $99 if you buy either of them separately. The Bar/fork combo will be $199

 

[Nick Griffin <3]

I'm not saying any of the other compression systems are bad. I just had an idea and i wanted to make it. The threads on the steer tube wont strip because once you tighten the clamp, it locks the threads. Plus the threads are on the outside diameter of the steer tube and because it is 1 1/8 diameter it is actually very strong.

Also, even though SCS and HIC are good, they both rely on starnuts. When i came up with TLC, i was trying to eliminate the starnut due to problems of them either stripping or pulling up in the tube. There is so much leverage on scooter bars at the junction of the bars and fork, that i wanted to come up with a way to lock it together so you wouldn't have to constantly adjust it.

Yes, right now this only works with our bars. There was no way to make the shim super thin and still be strong. I am willing to let other companies use the TLC concept if they want to make compatible bars or forks.

Retail on our iHIC bars is $229 and our TLC forks will retail for $99 if you buy either of them separately. The Bar/fork combo will be $199

good luck with that.

 

[parrish]

i think it was a typo, supposed to be $129

 

[Rob.]

I think he meant $129.

if he meant $229 i would just be flabbergasted.

I have personally never had an issue with starnuts to the point where I couldn't fix it myself (i.e. slamming it out the bottom or installing a new one). A 2$ starnut or whatever from a bike shop + the whole "works with all forks and bars" things makes the whole iHIC forks/bars idea really bad, incompatible, and unnecessarily expensive.

kieran peterson if no bolt is used then there's literally nothing stopping everything from becoming loose in the event of well, hitting the ground at a weird angle, or accidentally landing sideways and the bars turn hard...

 

[Derek Seay]

You should do a different fork "Shape" your forks look really stupid on any other deck then a PHX integrated.

 

[Carson .]

Also, ALOT of people ride 22 high and 23 high, all you have is 21 and 24 high. Not super apealing to me.

 

[Jossy]

i never really liked phoenix. they are making things worse for themselves.

 

[Phoenix One]

i never really liked phoenix. they are making things worse for themselves.

Its ok with me if you don't like us. How is it that by coming up with a new idea, we are doing something bad?

We ARE making our HIC bars in 18, 20, 21, 22, 24 from now on.

If you don't like our stuff, its ok, don't buy it. Nuff said.

 

[Derek Seay]

you should make a SCS, for oversized bars. Such as Torn Bars.

 

[Hunter Treviranus]

phoenix should make a different design fork with this because with phorx they feel strange if there not with a phoenix integrated imo

 

[Derek Seay]

Yes^

 

[ConnorD]

I think you should make an HIC fork that can be used with standard bars. Like have the forktube tapered to be smaller at the top, and then have a shim that is 1 1/8"

 

[BrandonWeir]

I think you should make an HIC fork that can be used with standard bars. Like have the forktube tapered to be smaller at the top, and then have a shim that is 1 1/8"

Yeah, a weaker version of HIC, that'd be cool. Wouldn't work cause the headset has to be on 1 1/8" tubing and either the headset would be too big, or the shim would go right into the headset instead of on top of it to compress it.

 

[Riley Hughes]

nah brandon itd work.

 

[Carson .]

Not on all decks If wouldn't.

 

[BrandonWeir]

Think about it. HIC works by having a shim that's the same size as standard bars press down on the top cap of your headset. Then you get oversized bars to go over that. Now if you downsize the shim, you also have to downsize the fork, and then you have to downsize the headset as well because that's part of the compression. Basically everything involved with compression would need to be smaller. So you'd have to get some tard headset.